Last week I was at Adobe’s MAX conference in Los Angeles, where I grabbed some time with two of the key people behind PhoneGap, the incredibly popular framework for developing hybrid HTML5/native mobile apps. Over beers at Yard House (which has an outstandingly enthusiastic manager who loves craft and good beer), Andre Charland, Brian LeRoux, and I discuss PhoneGap, Adobe, craft and beer, the connection between designers and developers, and more.
I only had my phone on me at the bar, so this whole thing was recorded on a Nexus 4.
Some language may be NSFW, so watch at your peril.
Disclosure: Adobe is a client and paid for my travel and hotel at Adobe Max.
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