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title: "Changelog Interviews: Open source is at a crossroads (w/ Stephen O'Grady)"
date: 2023-09-20T20:03:18Z
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This week we’re joined by Steve O’Grady, Principal Analyst & Co-founder at RedMonk. The topic today is the definition of open source, the constant pressure on the true definition of the term, and the seemingly small but vocal minority that aim to protect that definition. In Steve’s post _[Why Open Source Matters](https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2023/08/03/why-opensource-matters/)_, he says “open source is at a crossroads” and there are some seeking to break the definition of open source to one that is more permissive to their desires, and they are closer than ever to achieving that goal. Today’s conversation goes deep on this subject.

[Recording and Show Notes](https://changelog.com/podcast/558)