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title: "Tools and Usability: James Governor on Page it to the Limit"
date: 2021-05-22T00:26:14Z
modified: 2023-01-26T17:32:32Z
permalink: "https://redmonk.com/blog/2021/05/21/tools-and-usability-james-governor-on-page-it-to-the-limit/"
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  - Appearances
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featured_image_alt: James Governor, Co-founder RedMonk. Tools and Usability (Part 1). Page it to the Limit.
timestamp: 2023-01-26T17:32:32Z
tags:
  - Appearances
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James Governor joins Quintessence Anx on PagerDuty’s podcast [Page it to the Limit](https://www.pageittothelimit.com/tools-and-usability-with-james-governor/) to discuss how tools support cultural changes and the ability to make more usable software. (Part [1](https://www.pageittothelimit.com/tools-and-usability-with-james-governor/) of [2](https://www.pageittothelimit.com/hiring-and-pipeline-with-james-governor/))