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title: "A RedMonk Conversation: Developer-First Infrastructure"
date: 2022-05-04T17:14:44Z
modified: 2022-05-09T22:56:55Z
permalink: "https://redmonk.com/videos/a-redmonk-conversation-developer-first-infrastructure/"
type: video
status: publish
excerpt: ""
wpid: 2993
series:
  - Conversations
channel:
  - RedMonk Video
featured_image: "https://redmonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Pulumi-dev-first-infra-Thumbnail.jpg"
timestamp: 2022-05-09T22:56:55Z
tags:
  - Conversations
  - RedMonk Video
---

Another conversation – this time with James Governor, co-founder of RedMonk and Joe Duffy, CEO and founder of Pulumi. In this talk Joe outlines the past and future of infrastructure management, looking at operating systems, programming languages and cloud architectures and where we go next. Pulumi is doubling down on an opinionated idea of developer-first infrastructure, with a manifesto inspired by Twelve-Factor Applications. The software mindset, and getting beyond lift and shift.

This was a RedMonk video, sponsored by Pulumi.