{"id":228,"date":"2004-12-15T16:48:42","date_gmt":"2004-12-15T23:48:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp\/?p=228"},"modified":"2004-12-15T16:48:42","modified_gmt":"2004-12-15T23:48:42","slug":"on-google-microsoft-and-trust","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/2004\/12\/15\/on-google-microsoft-and-trust\/","title":{"rendered":"On Google, Microsoft and Trust"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The conventional wisdom here is simple: Google is trustworthy, Microsoft is not. These assumptions have thus far displayed a remarkable inertia and resistance to change. <\/p>\n<p>Google&#8217;s &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.google-watch.org\/gmail.html\">creepy<\/a>&#8221; Gmail has thus far scared off few besides dedicated privacy zealots, Orkut&#8217;s T&#8217;s &amp; C&#8217;s have caused less controversy than might be expected, and the company that&#8217;s mission is to &#8220;not be evil&#8221; has also withstood the usual IPO = sell-out backlash. Microsoft, on the other hand, is still on what is a seemingly permanent probation for its <a href=\"http:\/\/www.livejournal.com\/community\/insidegoogle\/168858.html\">past business practices<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Now I&#8217;m not here to convince you that Google is evil, or that Microsoft has been successfully rehabilitated from its anti-competitive ways. More to the point, I very much doubt anything I could say here would make much of a difference. Such emotional distinctions are not particularly responsive to objective, rational arguments. You can&#8217;t &#8220;Get the Facts&#8221; on trust. <\/p>\n<p>But what is interesting to me is that the conventional wisdom here may be obscuring an interesting trend, which has the organizations headed in opposite directions. To wit, a few selected quotations:<\/p>\n<p>1. <b>Anil Dash<\/b>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>That may be, but I can&#8217;t help but think this [<a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/press\/pressrel\/print_library.html\">reference<\/a>] is also a defensive moved, based on leveraging one of the assets they have against Microsoft in the search war: Trust. Google still has a good enough reputation that some of the finest institutions in the world will trust their knowledge and assets to a publicly held company. That&#8217;s astonishing, especially given the anti-corporate slant that a lof of universities have. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dashes.com\/anil\/2004\/12\/15\/google_leverage\">link<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>2. <strong>Dave Winer<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Another way of looking at it: What if Microsoft were doing what Google is doing? Of course we wouldn&#8217;t let them do it without a very serious and probably very shrill examination. Well, I&#8217;m telling you, Google today is as dangerous as Microsoft, and I wouldn&#8217;t bet on their trustworthyness, not without a lot more light having been shed on this. The technology industry is built on a foundation of arrogance and disdain for users. Google is too. You may not have seen it yet, but I have. (<a href=\"http:\/\/archive.scripting.com\/2004\/12\/15#trustingGoogle\">link<\/a>) <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>3. <b>Jon Udell<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I think that stewardship of so much of our private as well as public information requires a lot more transparency than Google currently practices. For example, on the day that MSN Search was announced I pointed to a funny but tasteless prank that Google News played on Microsoft. Are we really supposed to believe that an algorithm chose that unflattering photo of Bill Gates? Of course it didn&#8217;t. But how can we know for sure? (<a href=\"http:\/\/weblog.infoworld.com\/udell\/2004\/12\/15.html#a1134\">link<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>4. <b>Scott Rosenberg<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As long as Google&#8217;s amazing project puts more knowledge in more hands and heads, who could object? But in this area, taking the long view is not just smart &#8212; it&#8217;s ethically essential. So as details of Google&#8217;s project emerge, it will be important not just to rely on Google&#8217;s assurances but to keep an eye out for public guarantees of access, freedom of expression and limits to censorship. (<a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.salon.com\/0000014\/2004\/12\/14.html#a795\">link<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The important points I draw from the above are the following: a.) Google is still trusted, but that trust is eroding due to its opaque behavior, and b.) Microsoft is still not trusted, and its every behavior will continue to be scrutinized.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m sure many of you could come up with evidence to support or attack the above, but just look at one of the areas where this is playing out &#8211; blogs. Microsoft has gotten blogging religion in a major way, with literally thousands of employees blogging. Google, on the other hand, has not. This makes Microsoft more transparent &#8211; and thus, in an indirect sense &#8211; trustworthy, than the &#8220;trust us, we&#8217;re good&#8221; guys at Google. <\/p>\n<p>With rare exceptions like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eightypercent.net\/\">Joe Beda<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.adambosworth.net\">Adam Bosworth<\/a>, Google is one of the least transparent technology companies around today. And Beda&#8217;s blog I think says it all: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p> I&#8217;m a software developer living in Seattle and working for Google. I can&#8217;t really talk about *what* I&#8217;m working on at Google quite yet. I used to work at Microsoft on Avalon, Longhorn and IE.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The problem for Google, I think, will come as they amass more and more information &#8211; personal (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\">link<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gmail.com\">link<\/a>) and otherwise, because along with that information stewardship comes grave responsibility, as Jon Udell noted <a href=\"http:\/\/weblog.infoworld.com\/udell\/gems\/ju-trustingGoogle.mp3\">here (MP3 link)<\/a>. Thus far, Google has shown little to indicate that they recognize the serious nature of their information management role, although to be fair, small things like Gmail&#8217;s POP support indicate they at least understand the importance of an <a href=\"http:\/\/weblog.infoworld.com\/udell\/2004\/09\/09.html#a1073\">exit strategy<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve written many times about the promise of Google&#8217;s technical vision &#8211; as articulated by Bosworth &#8211; in delivering rich application functionality over the network. As you&#8217;ve all gathered by now, I believe in that vision strongly. It&#8217;s important to remember, however, that the technical ability to deliver such functionality is only part of the equation. Longer term, trust is far more important, and much harder to maintain.<\/p>\n<p>What all of this says, I think, is that Google is nearing a crossroads in determining its future path. They can take the Microsoft fork &#8211; and face the same scrutiny Microsoft does, or they can learn what the folks from Redmond have: trust is hard to earn, easy to lose, and nearly impossible to win back.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The conventional wisdom here is simple: Google is trustworthy, Microsoft is not. These assumptions have thus far displayed a remarkable inertia and resistance to change. Google&#8217;s &#8220;creepy&#8221; Gmail has thus far scared off few besides dedicated privacy zealots, Orkut&#8217;s T&#8217;s &amp; C&#8217;s have caused less controversy than might be expected, and the company that&#8217;s mission<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"spay_email":"","footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false},"categories":[93],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-228","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-trends-observations"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/228","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=228"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/228\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=228"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=228"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=228"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}