{"id":1379,"date":"2007-02-09T16:15:34","date_gmt":"2007-02-09T23:15:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/2007\/02\/09\/well-so-much-for-that\/"},"modified":"2007-02-09T16:15:34","modified_gmt":"2007-02-09T23:15:34","slug":"well-so-much-for-that","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/2007\/02\/09\/well-so-much-for-that\/","title":{"rendered":"Well, So Much for That"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It would appear that <a href=\"http:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/2007\/02\/03\/solaris_gplv3\">the debate<\/a>, begun a little more than a week ago, is now effectively <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opensolaris.org\/jive\/thread.jspa?threadID=23699&amp;tstart=0\">ended<\/a> &#8211; at least for the better part of a year. For those of you who aren&#8217;t inclined to follow the links, the short version is that the OpenSolaris CAB\/OGB has decided that &#8220;there is little, if any, benefit to dual-licensing OpenSolaris&#8221; and directs that &#8220;any option related to GPLv3 dual licensing be re-assessed no sooner than 6 months after the GPLv3 has been published and approved.&#8221; What&#8217;s more, &#8220;discussion on GPL* is merely a diversion and distraction that should be discouraged.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That is, of course, the OpenSolaris community&#8217;s perogative. While it&#8217;s still my belief that the risks are being overestimated while the benefits are underappreciated, reasonable minds may of course disagree. And on that note, I&#8217;d like to take the opportunity to thank all of the commenters, both public and private, for their commitment to keeping things civil. I don&#8217;t see any of these decisions as life or death matters, and therefore have little patience for those that would turn otherwise respectful discourse into heated confrontation. Fortunately, I have not had to worry about that; to a person, everyone who&#8217;s contributed either on the blog or in person has been respectfully able to agree to disagree, as we all should be. <\/p>\n<p>I confess to finding the position paper disappointing, however, in its display of a seemingly obvious bias towards the anti-GPLv3 position. I have no serious issue with the overall decision, nor do I disagree with many of the cited risks except in terms of the probability of those risks actually occuring. I do, however, take exception to the assertion that there is &#8220;little, if any&#8221; benefit to the dual-licensing approach. Very few, if any, of the individuals against the GPLv3 that I&#8217;ve interacted with would contend that moving to the GPLv3 would have such a minimal positive impact. I&#8217;m frankly perplexed as to how one would would reach that conclusion, if they&#8217;ve given both sides of the debate the consideration they deserve. Even though I don&#8217;t personally believe it, I could probably build a case for dual-licensing risks outweighing the benefits. I would not even attempt, however, to claim that there were none. Particularly when there are <a href=\"http:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/2007\/02\/03\/solaris_gplv3#comment-15995\">already<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.sun.com\/eric_boutilier\/entry\/dual_licensing_gplv3_and_cddl#comment-1170889758000\">voices<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/tieguy.org\/blog\/2006\/09\/22\/what-the-kernel-guys-are-and-arent-and-really-should-be-saying-about-gpl-v3\/#comment-4392\">expressing<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/lwn.net\/Articles\/205662\/\">interest<\/a>. Not to mention the fact that it&#8217;s not even known yet which projects outside of Samba will be moving to V3 &#8211; though they&#8217;ll doubtless outnumber CDDL projects &#8211; so that the potential benefit cannot be accurately assessed beyond the basic conclusion that there would inevitably be combinatorial advantages. <\/p>\n<p>Given the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.opensolaris.org\/jive\/thread.jspa?threadID=23699&amp;tstart=0\">stated<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/news.com.com\/2100-7344_3-6157761.html?part=rss&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-20&amp;subj=news\">positions<\/a> of some of the position paper&#8217;s signees, this decision should not be a surprise. Nor am I contending that the decision is necessarily wrong for the OpenSolaris community; as discussed previously, I have an outsider&#8217;s perspective and would not presume to instruct the community here. But I do wish the paper had either been less dismissive of the possible benefits, or acknowledged the preexisting bias and dropped the pretense that this was a fair hearing for both sides. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It would appear that the debate, begun a little more than a week ago, is now effectively ended &#8211; at least for the better part of a year. 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