{"id":752,"date":"2006-10-17T17:28:50","date_gmt":"2006-10-18T00:28:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/wp\/?p=752"},"modified":"2006-10-17T17:28:50","modified_gmt":"2006-10-18T00:28:50","slug":"first-live-writer-post-from-sap-tech-ed-cartels-in-best-practice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/first-live-writer-post-from-sap-tech-ed-cartels-in-best-practice\/","title":{"rendered":"First Live Writer Post: From SAP Tech Ed. Cartels in best practice?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>So here&nbsp;I am in sunny Amsterdam, having spent the day at SAP TechEd talking&nbsp;to the company about its approach to ecosystems. The headline &#8211; would have to be &#8211; lowering the barriers to participation. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/archives\/001958.html\">I am here, right<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Partnering 101<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Shai Agassi gave a very business focused pitch &#8211; less TechEd than&nbsp;&#8220;Partnering with SAP 101.&#8221;&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>He&nbsp;said SAP would provide three years of what it calls &#8220;white space&#8221; before moving to fill in the spaces it has identified in its portfolio for partners to work in.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I was a bit worried he also said it might take three years for a partner investment in SAP to really pay off&#8230; I can&#8217;t think of many investors that have three years worth of patience&#8230; or grassroots devs that don&#8217;t have mouths to feed long before then. The kind of patience that the SAP board showed when Shai failed to win any customers the first quarter after SAP acquired&nbsp;his firm is in short supply.<\/p>\n<p><strong>When is a Community a Cartel?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nils Herzberg gave a solid performance looking at tecosystems from the Industry Value Networks perspective. That is&nbsp;&#8211; the communities SAP is building with major vertical industry players such as Du Pont or&nbsp;in chemicals.&nbsp;Nils raised an <em>extremely interesting issue<\/em> I had not previously&nbsp;considered.&nbsp;IVNs from the outside can look suspiciously like cartels, bringing together, as they do, significant players, so concentrating the market. There is a significant issue here, and one that I feel might be helped with greater transparency. Basically if deals are done behind closed doors in smoky rooms (well probably not that smoky but you know what I mean) between major industry players around infrastructure choices and standard interfaces there is a potential for antitrust scrutiny. That&#8217;s another issue to consider when building communities around market leaders, another take on shared information and services.<\/p>\n<p><strong>From Business to Scripts to Ubuntu<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I bumped into Craig Cmehill, he of script in a box, and met Eric Wood, SAP&#8217;s go-to-guy for enterprise widgets. He has a great techdork title &#8211; Emerging Solutions Imagineering.<\/p>\n<p>Interestings news &#8211; it looks like Ubuntu might take up Craig&#8217;s script in a box approach to allow portage for scripting stacks. <\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile&nbsp;Eric is thinking through the issues of single sign on for widgets. Say you&#8217;re a bank that wants to give customers a widget to track something. Security is critical.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>I have a new Thinkpad &#8211; and decided to give some new&nbsp;Microsoft technology a go. So here is a WYSIWYG client for blogging.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>disclaimers: SAP is not a client. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; So here&nbsp;I am in sunny Amsterdam, having spent the day at SAP TechEd talking&nbsp;to the company about its approach to ecosystems. The headline &#8211; would have to be &#8211; lowering the barriers to participation. I am here, right? 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