{"id":65,"date":"2004-11-09T19:21:54","date_gmt":"2004-11-10T02:21:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/wp\/?p=65"},"modified":"2004-11-09T19:21:54","modified_gmt":"2004-11-10T02:21:54","slug":"note-to-furl-should-you-be-more-delicious","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/note-to-furl-should-you-be-more-delicious\/","title":{"rendered":"Note To Furl: should you be more del.ici.ous?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have pointed to Furl a couple of times <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/archives\/000179.html\">recently<\/a>. i like the online bookmarking service. but i do admit to having a certain <a href=\"http:\/\/del.icio.us\/doc\/about\">del.ici.ous<\/a> envy. <\/p>\n<p>This <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/sogrady\/archives\/000250.html\">post<\/a> from by business partner didn&#8217;t help. But i can&#8217;t help wondering if some of the apparent momentum in delicious is down to the <a href=\"http:\/\/weblog.infoworld.com\/udell\/\">Udell effect<\/a>. John is a blogosphere supernode and his interest in del.ici.ous is piquing others too.<\/p>\n<p>So am i envious of the buzz or the service itself? and how come furl seems to be garnering less interest.<\/p>\n<p>Well, it turns out <a href=\"http:\/\/www.googlefight.com\/\">googlefight-ing<\/a> challenges assumptions and points to the idea i may indeed have fallen into a self referential chamber:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.googlefight.com\/cgi-bin\/compare.pl?q1=del.ici.ous+api&amp;q2=furl+api&amp;B1=Make+a+fight%21&amp;compare=1&amp;langue=us\">furl vs. del.ici.ous<\/a>: furl has about twice as many google mentions as delicious (could be down to the weird periods in the del.ici.ous though)<\/p>\n<p>so i got to wondering whether it was that del.ici.ous is just more API oriented &#8211; so it is getting picked up more broadly in developers minds, because of its politics of lighweight service calls.<\/p>\n<p>here googlefight&#8217;s results definitely surprised me<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.googlefight.com\/cgi-bin\/compare.pl?q1=del.ici.ous+api&amp;q2=furl+api&amp;B1=Make+a+fight%21&amp;compare=1&amp;langue=us\">del.ici.ous API vs furl API<\/a> 13 results for delicious to 8,260 for furl&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>and as it transpires there is plenty of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.technorati.com\/cosmos\/search.html?rank=&amp;url=furl\">furl buzz<\/a> in feedland. <\/p>\n<p>my opinion is shifting as i look around and remember an article called <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.contentious.com\/archives\/2004\/06\/22\/10-cool-things-to-do-with-furl\">10 Cool Things To Do With Furl<\/a>, which led me on through <a href=\"http:\/\/technorati.com\/\">technorati<\/a> to <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.contentious.com\/archives\/2004\/07\/01\/more-furl-tricks\">More Furl Tricks<\/a><\/p>\n<p>and then to Travis Swicegood, who helpfully offers a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fromthecrossroads.ws\/newmedia\/2004\/07\/01\/p103_Furl_It_\">comparison of the two services<\/a> The bottom line according to Travis &#8211; &#8220;Furl does a lot of the same things as del.icio.us, but it appears they&#8217;ve taken notice of their competition&#8217;s short-comings.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And so on to what looks like a factor and comment to consider, posted by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chris-lott.org\/\">Chris Lott<\/a>. He points to del.ici.ous role in the world of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.xfront.com\/REST-Web-Services.html\">Rest<\/a>ful interfaces &#8211; &#8220;del.icio.us excels when you want to share your bookmarks on a wider basis, when tagging makes more sense than categories, and when you want to access programmatically using the REST interface.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>To wrap up &#8211; for now! &#8211; this is an area that i want to keep tracking. But from what i know of the services so far it seems while furl is more consumer driven in terms of interface and now <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shareholder.com\/looksmart\/releaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=143636\">ownership<\/a>, del.ici.ous is more part of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.webservices.org\/ws\/content\/view\/full\/39565\">restifarian<\/a> universe.<\/p>\n<p>Its not clear which is so far most effectively driving <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oreillynet.com\/pub\/wlg\/3017\">architecture of participation<\/a>. Which brings me neatly to Stephen&#8217;s discussion of the changing notion of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/sogrady\/archives\/000251.html\">what constitutes a &#8220;service&#8221;<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>While innovation in WS-I seems to be slowing, there is a world of service splicing where innovation is far less constrained. Finally i have to say to furl again &#8211; keep up the good work, you are evidently very tasty, but please hurry up with your group bookmarking functionality! <a href=\"http:\/\/www.spurl.net\/help\/eval.php#what_is_spurl\">spurl <\/a>has that already? <\/p>\n<p>And does anyone know of any furl to delicious integration yet? i hear spurl supports that too-looks like another service to look at.<\/p>\n<p>Anyone reading this blog entry might turn away and think this guy doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about. fair enough. my point is that the conversation is still ongoing and i am still listening. and hopefully usefully aggregating.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have pointed to Furl a couple of times recently. i like the online bookmarking service. but i do admit to having a certain del.ici.ous envy. This post from by business partner didn&#8217;t help. But i can&#8217;t help wondering if some of the apparent momentum in delicious is down to the Udell effect. 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