{"id":314,"date":"2005-08-16T12:13:23","date_gmt":"2005-08-16T19:13:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/wp\/?p=314"},"modified":"2005-08-16T12:13:23","modified_gmt":"2005-08-16T19:13:23","slug":"on-firefox-as-de-facto-standard-and-hp-oss-actions-speak-louder-than-words","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/on-firefox-as-de-facto-standard-and-hp-oss-actions-speak-louder-than-words\/","title":{"rendered":"On Firefox as de facto standard and HP OSS: Actions Speak Louder Than Words"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><P><!--StartFragment -->&nbsp;I don&#8217;t know if thinrich is a word. Actually I know only too well that its not, but i thought I would throw it out there anyway. <A href=\"http:\/\/www.adaptivepath.com\/publications\/essays\/archives\/000385.php\">AJAX<\/A>? What is that? Its a development style that allows you to build &#8220;thinrich&#8221; applications.<\/P><P>Anyhow, Stepho has <A href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/sogrady\/archives\/000891.html\">this<\/A> to say on the subject:<\/P><BLOCKQUOTE>  <P><!--StartFragment -->Firefox in that respect is more than just a simple   browser; it is increasingly the de facto foundation for cross-platform thin   client approaches. While many rich client vendors have tended to roll their   eyes at the possibility that browser based clients pose a legitimate threat,   Salesforce.com and now SugarCRM have at least gotten some of them to sit up   and pay attention. Throw in the really compelling user experiences being   delivered by a reinvigorated population of web developers pushing the   boundaries of design with Ajax, and it&#8217;s clear that Firefox is a platform   worth investing in for any vendor with interests in seeing platform   heterogeneity.<\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><P>What he said&#8230; and perhaps <A href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/archives\/000524.html\">what I said<\/A>&#8230;<\/P><P>Looking at what <A href=\"http:\/\/terminally.blogspot.com\/2005\/08\/ibm-donates-code-to-firefox.html\">Terminally Incoherent<\/A>&nbsp;points out, IBM should probably call the US copyright office right now to ensure it doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;take the&nbsp;&#8220;IE only&#8221; decision&nbsp;(what were the copyright guys smoking that day, anyway?). Ah <A href=\"http:\/\/www.section508.gov\/\">Section 508<\/A>, that <A href=\"http:\/\/terminally.blogspot.com\/2005\/08\/copyright-office-to-go-ie-only.html\">ought to do it<\/A>&#8230; With IBM&#8217;s help, 508 is no longer an argument that can be used against Firefox.<\/P><P>I would like to add, on a related note,&nbsp;that examining IBM&#8217;s <A href=\"http:\/\/www-128.ibm.com\/developerworks\/blogs\/dw_blog_comments.jspa?blog=384&amp;entry=92562\">most recent contribution<\/A> to Mozilla, there is a clear and substantive difference between HP&#8217;s approach which publicly <A href=\"http:\/\/blogs.zdnet.com\/BTL\/?p=1702\">calls for everyone else to only use GPL licenses<\/A>&nbsp;(what was <EM>up<\/EM> with that red shirt and tie combo, the <A href=\"http:\/\/gofugyourself.typepad.com\/\">fugly girls<\/A> woulda had a field day) and IBM&#8217;s pragmatic, contribution-oriented approach to source code license and management issues. As Steve Mills, IBM Software Group supremo likes to say: &#8220;Code talks&#8230; and BS walks.&#8221;<\/P><P>The most obvious way to strengthen the position of particular open source license is surely to <A href=\"http:\/\/www.cuddletech.com\/blog\/pivot\/entry.php?id=62\">contribute more code<\/A> under its terms.<\/P><P>Somewhat ironic perhaps that HP&#8217;s tagline for its <A href=\"http:\/\/opensource.hp.com\/\">open source page<\/A> is Actions Speak Louder Than Words.<\/P><P>So <A href=\"http:\/\/opensource.hp.com\/opensource_projects.html\">here are the actions<\/A>. <\/P><P>[Note to HP: <A href=\"http:\/\/www.google.co.uk\/search?q=Jeremy+Allison+novell&amp;sourceid=mozilla-search&amp;start=0&amp;start=0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official\">Jeremy Allison joined Novell recently<\/A>&nbsp;so the SAMBA entry needs updating.]<\/P><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;I don&#8217;t know if thinrich is a word. 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