{"id":240,"date":"2005-05-31T17:29:03","date_gmt":"2005-06-01T00:29:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/wp\/?p=240"},"modified":"2005-05-31T17:29:03","modified_gmt":"2005-06-01T00:29:03","slug":"danny-sabbahs-first-challenge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/danny-sabbahs-first-challenge\/","title":{"rendered":"Danny Sabbah&#8217;s first challenge"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><P>Ryan says <A href=\"http:\/\/naeblis.cx\/rtomayko\/2005\/05\/28\/ibm-poop-heads\">IBM is articulating the value of LAMP wrong<\/A>, only with more choice language (see my title). He makes some good points and its worth reading his post in full. As he points out, <A href=\"http:\/\/www.cincomsmalltalk.com\/blog\/blogView?showComments=true&amp;entry=3294824069\">James Robertson<\/A> jumps in too.<\/P><P>I have to say, for all the great respect I have for Danny Sabbah, Rational&#8217;s <A href=\"http:\/\/www.google.co.uk\/search?q=ibm+rational+gm+daniel+sabbah&amp;sourceid=mozilla-search&amp;start=0&amp;start=0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official\">new head honcho<\/A>&nbsp;[<EM>how hard can it be to make an easy search for corporate bios IBM, jeepers, i need webFountain for that?], <\/EM>his comments&nbsp;at the Rational show, reported in ZD Net, appear suboptimal. The offending article? <\/P><BLOCKQUOTE>  <P><!--StartFragment -->&#8220;If you look at the history of LAMP development,   they&#8217;re really primative [sic]&nbsp;tools &#8230; the so-called good enough model.   The type of businesses being created around those particular business models   are essentially going to have to grow up at some point. <\/P>  <P>&#8220;I believe that in the same way that some of those simple solutions are   good enough to start with, eventually, they are going to have to come up   against scalability,&#8221; Sabbah said <A href=\"http:\/\/www.zdnet.com.au\/news\/software\/0,2000061733,39193420,00.htm\">during   a press conference at the IBM Rational User Conference in Las Vegas<\/A>. <\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><P>Interesting that InformationWeek touts Danny as &#8220;<A href=\"http:\/\/www.informationweek.webservicespipeline.com\/163700645\">open source promoter<\/A>&#8220;, before his first public statements in the role create some community ire in that regard. Note that Danny is not a marketer by trade, but a coder.&nbsp;<\/P><P>That aside, its important to understand when IBM talks about scale, it really means something different from the rest of us.&nbsp;Danny, when he thinks about scale, thinks about the requirements of the biggest IT shops in the world. The top 20, say. When IBM bought Informix it initially classified Sears as a medium-sized customer&#8230; When IBM thinks of scale it thinks of problems nobody else can solve, where TPF and IMS-like models come in.<\/P><P>Stephen was kind&nbsp;enough to <A href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/sogrady\/archives\/000673.html\">call out this quote from me recently, in a piece that parses &#8220;good enough&#8221;:<\/A> <\/P><BLOCKQUOTE>  <P><STRONG>Not every organization is a Charles Schwab or an eBay, but BEA and   IBM tended to compete as if that were the norm, not the exception.<\/STRONG><\/P><\/BLOCKQUOTE><P>That&#8217;s Danny&#8217;s World.&nbsp;Stephen certainly wasn&#8217;t unduly worried by any of Danny&#8217;s pronouncements. On the contrary he was <A href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/sogrady\/archives\/000698.html\">reasonably positive<\/A>&nbsp;about the keynote.<\/P><P>My favourite Sabbah quote of all time (its just so right on) is &#8220;There is nothing new in IT&#8221;<\/P><P>And he is right. IBM has made the same mistake a few times. Ah we&#8217;re too busy worrying about real scale to do something about Windows, or SQLServer, or <A href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/archives\/000696.html\">Google<\/A>. The problem is, by the time IBM has solved the problems of the top .005%, everyone else is happy with what Danny refers to as &#8220;good enough&#8221;. What is &#8220;low end&#8221; becomes &#8220;high end&#8221;. Take Sybase&#8217;s low end database, which is now the core of SQLServer&#8230; In other words Danny is right. He is just a little bit ahead of the curve.&nbsp;The fact is <A href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/archives\/000683.html\">IBM customers want to see scripting, fully supported by IBM, which is when these technologies become &#8220;enterprise ready<\/A>.&#8221;<\/P><P>Luckily in this case, its just the marketing and messaging that need tweaking. IBM is seemingly making all the right moves in Zend and PHP and J2EE. So don&#8217;t shoot the messenger, folks.<\/P><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ryan says IBM is articulating the value of LAMP wrong, only with more choice language (see my title). He makes some good points and its worth reading his post in full. 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