{"id":1679,"date":"2008-11-25T10:52:39","date_gmt":"2008-11-25T10:52:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/?p=1679"},"modified":"2008-11-25T10:52:39","modified_gmt":"2008-11-25T10:52:39","slug":"three-better-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/three-better-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing\/","title":{"rendered":"Three Better Ways To Tell Its not Cloud Computing?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/4\/4e\/Life_of_Martin_Luther.jpg\/763px-Life_of_Martin_Luther.jpg\" class=\"alignnone\" width=\"500\" height=\"400\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\nFirst we had <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/2008\/03\/13\/15-ways-to-tell-its-not-cloud-computing\/\">15 Ways<\/a>, then we had <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/2008\/10\/24\/giving-the-manifesto-a-haircut-what-is-cloud-computing\/\">16 Corrections<\/a>, then <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/2008\/11\/12\/15-ways-i-am-wrong-about-enterprise-cloud-computing\/\">15 Ways I am Wrong<\/a>, and now we have <a href=\"http:\/\/staffingtechnology.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/three-better-ways-to-tell-it-not-cloud.html\">3 Ways<\/a>. What would Martin Luther have done?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/staffingtechnology.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/three-better-ways-to-tell-it-not-cloud.html\">Staffing Software Talk<\/a> takes a very hard-boiled and boiled down approach:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>For those of you not already plugged into this latest addition to tech jargon, you can read more about cloud computing here. But actually I wouldn&#8217;t waste your time.  If you&#8217;re over 50 just think &#8220;service bureau&#8221;.  30 to 49, think &#8220;Application Service&#8221;, and 20 to 30 &#8220;SAAS (Software As A Service)&#8221;.  If under 20 then cloud is everything you need in your online life &#8211; amazon, ebay, facebook, myspace, gmail.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Gregg certainly has a point that there is &#8220;nothing new&#8221; about the core concepts behind cloud, although I would argue its reimplementation of these ideas which gives them their current strength. I also think its notable that Gregg&#8217;s definition points to an age-related segmentation. I have to say that Gregg&#8217;s leap from there to 3 Ways To Tell Its Not A Cloud didn&#8217;t really chime with my understanding. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>   1. If it leaves you with unintegrated systems, it&#8217;s not cloud computing.<br \/>\n         2. If it leaves you with non-revenue generating IT and data entry staff, it&#8217;s not cloud computing.<br \/>\n         3. If it doesn&#8217;t eliminate your paper processes, it&#8217;s not cloud computing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>1. I disagree because of David Weinberger&#8217;s core Web design pattern of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smallpieces.com\/\">Small Pieces, Loosely Joined<\/a>. Often integration is left to the user, which is no bad thing. Cloud componentry should be loosely-coupled, taking advantage of service orientation. Of course integration-as-packaging has value, but we must be careful not to simply recreate monoliths in the cloud.<\/p>\n<p>2. Not all powerful and useful cloud services will be &#8220;revenue generating&#8221;. Take data archiving for regulatory purposes for example, which is a necessity but doesn&#8217;t drive revenue. <a href=\"http:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/2007\/01\/13\/itreport_backup\/\">Data Backup<\/a> is another extremely useful cloud service. It may not drive revenues but its vital to a business.<\/p>\n<p>3. I like the promise behind this definition, especially given the dog&#8217;s breakfast state of so many of our paper-based processes, but it ends up feeling more like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/jgovernor\/2007\/10\/03\/a-nice-definition-of-office-20\/\">Office 2.0<\/a> than cloud to me. Clearly IT should help to remove laborious paper-based processes, but arguably that&#8217;s true of any application, cloud-based or not. <\/p>\n<p>Gregg, Jeff and Eric have all helped to advance my thinking on the cloud subject, as have <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gapingvoid.com\/Moveable_Type\/archives\/004638.html\">Hugh<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.roughtype.com\/archives\/2008\/10\/what_tim_oreill.php\">Nick<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/radar.oreilly.com\/2008\/10\/web-20-and-cloud-computing.html\">Tim<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tbray.org\/ongoing\/When\/200x\/2008\/10\/27\/Shape-of-the-Cloud\">Tim<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/redmonk.com\/sogrady\/2008\/09\/30\/is-the-cloud-stupid\/\">Stephen<\/a>. Its time (if I can find some) for a significant update.<\/p>\n<p>picture courtesy of Wikipedia via the <a href=\"http:\/\/lcweb2.loc.gov\/cgi-bin\/query\/h?pp\/PPALL:@field(NUMBER+@1(pga+00297))\">US Library of Congress<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>First we had 15 Ways, then we had 16 Corrections, then 15 Ways I am Wrong, and now we have 3 Ways. What would Martin Luther have done? 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