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title: "Opinionated Infrastructure Podcast: Java 20 years in, past, present, future."
date: 2015-06-02T19:09:55Z
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Introducing a new podcast series, called Opinionated Infrastructure, for those of that don’t like to watch [video rants](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEu8_sp6Bzk) while you’re driving. This first one is sponsored by Salesforce.com, which might surprise you given the theme is 20 years of Java, past, present and future. More surprising perhaps is that the guest is Joe Kutner, JVM Languages Owner at Heroku. Now don’t imagine we spend the show saying Java sucks, but JVMs are cool. That is not the point. Rather – what is the role of Java in a web native era? How did we get here, and what comes next. Heroku wants to be be a home for the new Java workloads.

Hope you enjoy the show. I will be making this a regular thing.