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title: "Note to Vendors: Don't talk about Java vs. .NET in briefings"
date: 2006-05-26T20:33:48Z
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Or you will lose credibility with an audience that knows anything about developer communities and how they are evolving.

If you are still pitching Java vs .NET your marketing is at least three years out of date.

The world has moved on.

Don’t talk about Java vs. .NET and then claim Eclipse and MySQL are not relevant because they are just departmental, or you will really embarrass yourself.

The worst parties in repeating the mantra of Java vs .NET are Microsoft and Sun. Please cut the guff, and think about what you’re pitching and who you’re talking to.

Java vs .NET? According to internal Microsoft research, helpfully surfaced by John Montgomery, [C++ rules](http://blogs.msdn.com/johnmont/archive/2006/05/25/606146.aspx).

I am not saying that Java is dead or anything daft like that (in fact Java One was buzzing), but the instruments are just too blunt to be useful.

disclaimer: Sun is a subscription client, Microsoft is an occasional client.