{"id":491,"date":"2006-11-28T13:59:38","date_gmt":"2006-11-28T20:59:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/cote\/wp\/?p=491"},"modified":"2006-11-28T13:59:38","modified_gmt":"2006-11-28T20:59:38","slug":"java-and-javascript","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/2006\/11\/28\/java-and-javascript\/","title":{"rendered":"Java and JavaScript"},"content":{"rendered":"

Yesterday I was talking with my long-time podcasting buddy<\/a> and friend, Charles, about putting together some high level “marketing” for some of the ideas his company<\/a> has come up with around using Java and JavaScript together. More broadly, using Java and dynamic languages.<\/p>\n

Using Java and JavaScript Together<\/h2>\n

They’ve been using Java along with dynamic languages for awhile now, and they’ve come up with some nice ways of using the two from things like, to use my own phrases, “imperative configuration” (compared to declarative with XML) to “distributed closures” (whao! does that phrase even make sense?).<\/p>\n

I’ve been encouraging him to submit a few session and BoF proposals to JavaOne along the lines of “Using Java and JavaScript.” As we all know, Java SE 6.0 is going to ship with Rhino (JavaScript) and there’s plenty of other dynamic language thinking in the Java world at the moment. Not only as long-time projects like JRuby, Groovy, and Jython, but in the JCP. That is, from all of the activity in the public, it’s all but been officially announced that dynamic languages are to be a first class citizen in Java-land.<\/p>\n

What Do We Do With This?<\/h2>\n

The context, then, is that JavaScript will be ready for use once Java SE 6.0 comes out. This means the Java community will hungrily be asking, “well, what do I do with those two together?”<\/p>\n

People like Charles & Co. who’ve been using Java and JavaScript together, commercially, for some time so they have something to offer in answer to that question. Hopefully we can get them hooked up with a session or at least a BoF. Of course, I’m sure a book published sometime in the late winter or spring would be timed well too.<\/p>\n

More Examples?<\/h2>\n

Along those lines, I’m curious what other people have been doing with Java and dynamic languages in production systems. I know there’s plenty of technology on out there, like Phobos<\/a>, but I’m also interested in what people are shipping. I’ll try to put together a list for the public stories I get.<\/p>\n

Any one have examples?<\/p>\n

Disclaimer:<\/b> Sun is a client.<\/p>\n

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Tags: javascript<\/a>, javaone<\/a>, dynamiclanguages<\/a><\/p>\n

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