{"id":1663,"date":"2008-10-01T13:23:40","date_gmt":"2008-10-01T18:23:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/cote\/2008\/10\/01\/itmanagement021\/"},"modified":"2008-10-01T13:23:40","modified_gmt":"2008-10-01T18:23:40","slug":"itmanagement021","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/2008\/10\/01\/itmanagement021\/","title":{"rendered":"IT Management Podcast #21 &#8211; Clouds are Stupid, Windows on EC2, Cloud Revenue, Reporting in IT Management"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"pic\">\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/cote\/2868522558\/\" title=\"IMS and DB2 Pins by cote, on Flickr\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm4.static.flickr.com\/3253\/2868522558_b2d8b04aa2.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" alt=\"IMS and DB2 Pins\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Download the episode directly <a href=\"http:\/\/media.libsyn.com\/media\/redmonk\/itmanagement021.mp3\">right here<\/a>, or subscribe to <a href=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/ITManagementGuys\">the feed<\/a> in iTunes or other podcatcher to have episodes downloaded automatically.<\/p>\n<p>This week, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.johnmwillis.com\">John &#8220;The Cloud to Everyone&#8217;s Silver-lining&#8221; Willis<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.peopleoverprocess.com\">I<\/a> start out talking about the recent spate of cloud-bashing, from <i>Messieurs<\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-13953_3-10052188-80.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-5\">Larry<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/news.cnet.com\/8301-1001_3-10054253-92.html\">Stallman<\/a>. Partly in response, I point out <a href=\"http:\/\/saviorodrigues.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/01\/why-oracle-wont-lose-the-saascloud-competition\/\">a nice piece from Savio Rodrigues<\/a> in reply to all this trough of disillusionment talk. Bouncing off some <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techcrunch.com\/2008\/09\/30\/gnip-20-launches-with-a-business-model\/\">Gnip gnews<\/a>, I ask John about the revenue for things like Amazon EC2: can you really survive off $0.40\/month\/customer? We also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.allthingsdistributed.com\/2008\/09\/amazon_ec2_with_microsoft_wind.html\">discuss the implications of Windows running in the cloud, on Amazon EC2<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Mid-way through, we&#8217;re joined by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zenoss.com\/\">Zenoss<\/a>&#8216;s <a href=\"http:\/\/brandonwhichard.com\/\">Brandon Whichard<\/a>. We start out discussing the idea of &#8220;market-places&#8221; that I&#8217;ve been seeing getting attention of late (see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/cote\/2008\/09\/30\/debriefing004\/\">yesterday&#8217;s debriefing that mentioned Zoho marketplace<\/a>). Brandon points out the common theme here: the return of making money off software.<\/p>\n<p>Having worked with Brandon over the years, I ask him for his take on IT Management (he having departed into Identity Management for 4 years and recently come back). After John asks about the next part of the enterprise stack to be commoditized, we get into a lengthy discussion of reporting in IT Management: it never seems to do perfectly what users want, why is it that?<\/p>\n<p>And, check out the sponsor for this episode:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nAt <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ITKnowledgeExchange.com\">ITKnowledgeExchange.com<\/a>, engage in a community of IT peers like yourself, asking and answering their toughest IT questions. Visit <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ITKnowledgeExchange.com\">ITKnowledgeExchange.com<\/a> today.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><b>Disclosure:<\/b> Zenoss is a client, as are Microsoft and IBM. See <a href=\"http:\/\/www.redmonk.com\/clients\/\">the RedMonk client list for other clients mentioned<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Download the episode directly right here, or subscribe to the feed in iTunes or other podcatcher to have episodes downloaded automatically. This week, John &#8220;The Cloud to Everyone&#8217;s Silver-lining&#8221; Willis and I start out talking about the recent spate of cloud-bashing, from Messieurs Larry and Stallman. 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