As Stephen pointed out last week<\/a>, and I touched on in reference to Force.com<\/a>, there’s a fast emerging need for standards in cloud computing and we need them quick.<\/p>\n As from-left-field example – monitoring and managing – while there are the beginnings of efforts<\/a>, we don’t even have SNMP for the clouds. How about things orchestrating spinning up new instances and packaging?<\/p>\n These are just a few of the basic protocols and standards that keep on-premise things running. Glued on-top of the base level of monitoring and booting is a whole ‘nuther layer of configuration management<\/a>, network performance management, dynamic scaling, and process to make sure you don’t shoot yourself in the foot.<\/p>\n Relative to that, perhaps the most interesting talk at Velocity was on EUCALYPTUS (see video<\/a> above). Here, there’s a mix of standard and implementation. But, what’s key is the mixture of the neutral feel of the project along with the very real use-cases that managing a universities “cloud” comes with (pay attention to the access and identity management parts).<\/p>\n In a tea-leavers cross-over dream, Greg Papadopoulos (one of Sun’s CTO’s) mentioned EUCALYPTUS at Strucutre 08 as being<\/a> interesting and one of the only real efforts around standards in cloud land.<\/p>\n The standards sentiment seems to have already spread, both in general<\/a> and even to more narrow niches like data integration for the cloud<\/a>. Indeed, I had several encouraging conversations last week about cloud standards that I’m hoping RedMonk can be a catalyst for moving along.<\/p>\n (We actually discussed cloud standards at length towards the end of our last podcast<\/a>.)<\/p>\n When it comes to standards, the next question is of course around open source. Clearly, open source is beneficial for both developing and spreading standards: using running to code to get to de facto<\/i> standards is dandy, and there’s nothing like free code to spread the use of a standard.<\/p>\n Interestingly, at all of the cloud conferences I went to last week, open source was very rarely mentioned, except as a sort of sneering thing. Indeed, sort of capturing the sentiment, I jotted down<\/a> a stray quote from Structure’s VC panel about what cloud stuff can do, getting “beyond what you can do in open source.”<\/p>\n Of course open source is still valuable in exactly the same role is has now, in addition to standards support as: providing the middleware and libraries for software developers, both ISV and corporate. The question is what new<\/i> definitions, benefits, and draw-backs it’d have in an open source world. Stephen poked the bear of re-defining what open source is a little while ago<\/a> – the man has courage ;><\/p>\n Disclaimer:<\/b> Sun is a client, as is Hyperic.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Standards As Stephen pointed out last week, and I touched on in reference to Force.com, there’s a fast emerging need for standards in cloud computing and we need them quick. Keeping Things Running As from-left-field example – monitoring and managing – while there are the beginnings of efforts, we don’t even have SNMP for the […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[857,187,738,801],"class_list":["post-1440","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-cloud","tag-cloudcamp","tag-structure08","tag-velocity08"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1440","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1440"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1440\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1440"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1440"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redmonk.com\/cote\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1440"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}Keeping Things Running<\/h2>\n
What We Seem to Have So Far. No Much, But Something<\/h2>\n
Open Source?<\/h2>\n