Comments on: Oracle, MySQL and the EU: The Q&A http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/ because technology is just another ecosystem Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:19:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tecosystems » The Economics of Open Source: Why the Billion Dollar Barrier is Irrelevant http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-626640 tecosystems » The Economics of Open Source: Why the Billion Dollar Barrier is Irrelevant Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:45:11 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-626640 [...] Consider the support and service revenue lifeblood. If open source advocates are correct, and software developed in this fashion is indeed better designed and architected than proprietary choices, the need for support and service must necessarily be less. No software is bug free, of course, but better software should theoretically mean fewer suppot requests. Or take open core style models, which basically replicate the commercial software licensing model with an open source foundation; this erases, for some customers, the benefits of working with open source software. Dual licensing, meanwhile, can not only be unfavorable to customers, it can actually be detrimental to the vendor as well: MySQL, for example, found itself shipping a version of the codebase technically inferior to community distributions due to copyright conflicts with the dual licensing model (coverage). [...] [...] Consider the support and service revenue lifeblood. If open source advocates are correct, and software developed in this fashion is indeed better designed and architected than proprietary choices, the need for support and service must necessarily be less. No software is bug free, of course, but better software should theoretically mean fewer suppot requests. Or take open core style models, which basically replicate the commercial software licensing model with an open source foundation; this erases, for some customers, the benefits of working with open source software. Dual licensing, meanwhile, can not only be unfavorable to customers, it can actually be detrimental to the vendor as well: MySQL, for example, found itself shipping a version of the codebase technically inferior to community distributions due to copyright conflicts with the dual licensing model (coverage). [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » Data vs Dual Licensing: Which Will Make More Money? http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-596318 tecosystems » Data vs Dual Licensing: Which Will Make More Money? Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:01:48 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-596318 [...] long the standard bearer for the approach, the logistics of dual licensing were and are becoming increasingly problematic over time: For smaller firms, the primary limitation [of dual licensing] is the development. Unlike [...] [...] long the standard bearer for the approach, the logistics of dual licensing were and are becoming increasingly problematic over time: For smaller firms, the primary limitation [of dual licensing] is the development. Unlike [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » tecosystems 2009: What You Read, How You Read It, and Where You Read it From http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-584783 tecosystems » tecosystems 2009: What You Read, How You Read It, and Where You Read it From Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:30:32 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-584783 [...] Oracle, MySQL and the EU: The Q&A (9.6) [...] [...] Oracle, MySQL and the EU: The Q&A (9.6) [...]

]]> By: Open Source Innovation Needs An MySQL Database Backbone | DevWebPro http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-582088 Open Source Innovation Needs An MySQL Database Backbone | DevWebPro Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:53:21 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-582088 [...] exist, but I can hardly buy the idea of MySQL being a credible challenger for Oracle, and I am not alone. Beyond any consideration about viable and sustainable business strategies involving GPL code, [...] [...] exist, but I can hardly buy the idea of MySQL being a credible challenger for Oracle, and I am not alone. Beyond any consideration about viable and sustainable business strategies involving GPL code, [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » Oracle, MySQL and the EU: The Endgame Q&A http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-580762 tecosystems » Oracle, MySQL and the EU: The Endgame Q&A Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:30:35 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-580762 [...] You are on the record publicly as believing that the transaction should be allowed to proceed: do you still believe that? [...] [...] You are on the record publicly as believing that the transaction should be allowed to proceed: do you still believe that? [...]

]]> By: Let MySQL Go: Oracle, Open Source, and the EU http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-574257 Let MySQL Go: Oracle, Open Source, and the EU Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:53:24 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-574257 [...] Oracle, MySQL and the EU: The Q&A (redmonk.com) [...] [...] Oracle, MySQL and the EU: The Q&A (redmonk.com) [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » Amazon, RDS and the Future of MySQL http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-573196 tecosystems » Amazon, RDS and the Future of MySQL Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:25:07 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-573196 [...] relational database period. But with the project’s future open to question – the EU has stalled Oracle’s planned takeover of MySQL parent Sun – the timing is interesting. Amazon is [...] [...] relational database period. But with the project’s future open to question – the EU has stalled Oracle’s planned takeover of MySQL parent Sun – the timing is interesting. Amazon is [...]

]]> By: People Over Process » Numbers, Volume 32 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-572944 People Over Process » Numbers, Volume 32 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:56:50 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-572944 [...] the whole Oracle buying Sun scene. It has some notes on Oracles intentions with Java, MySQL (see Stephen’s recent opus), Glassfish, Netbeans, Solaris, and so [...] [...] the whole Oracle buying Sun scene. It has some notes on Oracles intentions with Java, MySQL (see Stephen’s recent opus), Glassfish, Netbeans, Solaris, and so [...]

]]> By: Chutzpah of the Week: Monty Widenius http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-572876 Chutzpah of the Week: Monty Widenius Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:44:15 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-572876 [...] Oracle, MySQL and the EU: The Q&A (redmonk.com) [...] [...] Oracle, MySQL and the EU: The Q&A (redmonk.com) [...]

]]> By: Nicolas Mailhot http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/10/23/oracle-mysql-and-the-eu-the-qa/comment-page-1/#comment-571179 Nicolas Mailhot Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:52:46 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=3049#comment-571179 Of course Mysql and Oracle compete. Sure they both have their sweet spot, but do you really think Oracle never tried to push its db everywhere? One of Oracle's favourite tricks is the Enterprise-wide as-much-as-you-can-deploy license, then come back a few years later and 'discover' the volume deployed is much larger than was originally plannified (because corps do not like supporting diversity, so they'll push same-db everywhere if they can). With mysql Oracle can not inflate its sales anymore, because customers can restrict their Oracle deployments to the apps that really need it (which is far less than people think) Of course Mysql and Oracle compete. Sure they both have their sweet spot, but do you really think Oracle never tried to push its db everywhere? One of Oracle’s favourite tricks is the Enterprise-wide as-much-as-you-can-deploy license, then come back a few years later and ‘discover’ the volume deployed is much larger than was originally plannified (because corps do not like supporting diversity, so they’ll push same-db everywhere if they can).

With mysql Oracle can not inflate its sales anymore, because customers can restrict their Oracle deployments to the apps that really need it (which is far less than people think)

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