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		<title>By: What if MySQL dropped the Dual License? &#171; JZ Talk Blogger</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/08/17/does-the-gpl-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-588027</link>
		<dc:creator>What if MySQL dropped the Dual License? &#171; JZ Talk Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if MySQL dropped the Dual License? In his blog Does the GPL Matter? In a Word, Yes, Stephen O&#8217;Grady makes the significant point that the dual-licensing model has a major [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christopher Baus</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/08/17/does-the-gpl-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-563162</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Baus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kindda curious to know what &quot;large financial houses&quot; were so opposed to the GPL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kindda curious to know what &#8220;large financial houses&#8221; were so opposed to the GPL.</p>
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		<title>By: GPL 2 adoption falls among open-source set &#124; Wakensys Chicago - Web Design &#38; Web Development Blog</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/08/17/does-the-gpl-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-562282</link>
		<dc:creator>GPL 2 adoption falls among open-source set &#124; Wakensys Chicago - Web Design &#38; Web Development Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] isn&#8217;t to suggest that the GPL doesn&#8217;t matter: it clearly does. As Redmonk analyst Stephen O&#8217;Grady recently noted, &#8220;the GPLv2 is more popular than all of the other licenses on the (Black Duck) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] isn&#8217;t to suggest that the GPL doesn&#8217;t matter: it clearly does. As Redmonk analyst Stephen O&#8217;Grady recently noted, &#8220;the GPLv2 is more popular than all of the other licenses on the (Black Duck) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; Does Copyright Matter? Or, is the End of Dual-Licensing Near?</title>
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		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; Does Copyright Matter? Or, is the End of Dual-Licensing Near?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the response I need to Brian Aker&#8217;s presumably tongue in cheek followup question to my &#8220;Does the GPL Matter?&#8221; bit. As an author of MySQL and Drizzle &#8211; not to mention the recipient of this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the response I need to Brian Aker&#8217;s presumably tongue in cheek followup question to my &#8220;Does the GPL Matter?&#8221; bit. As an author of MySQL and Drizzle &#8211; not to mention the recipient of this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sogrady</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/08/17/does-the-gpl-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-560351</link>
		<dc:creator>sogrady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This may be affected by the circles in which you move and therefore how you conceive of what is a “business”, but it would be more correct perhaps to say “businesses *which primarily profit from selling software* prefer Apache etc. *for software which they themselves do not write*”.&quot;

Fair point. I was borrowing, to a certain extent, from the original piece which was primarily discussing software vendors. But the additional context you provide can&#039;t hurt. 

Vis a vis your comment that it&#039;s for &quot;software which they themselves do not write,&quot; I&#039;d say that&#039;s not generally the case. Many vendors we work with are more comfortable - for better or for worse - contributing and author code under non-GPL style licenses. 

&quot;I honestly can’t see a butcher, baker or candlestick making corporation caring that they can’t take the software code they use proprietary and then sell it.&quot;

I&#039;m continually surprised at how enterprise buyers - meaning non-software vendors - have antiquated and frankly incorrect views of the GPL, and are thereby unreasonably frightened of the license. One of our clients, as an example, mentioned to clients they were considering switching to a GPL license for a variety of reasons. These clients - large financial houses mostly - threatened to rip out the software in retaliation, in spite of the fact that they have large swaths of their infrastructure already on GPL&#039;d software in Linux. 

Foolish? Absolutely. But it happens. 

&quot;Indeed to further reinforce the point made earlier, if “businesses” are such fans of the Apache licence etc. then why do they so often release their own software as proprietary code.&quot;

Because they can. They enjoy the opportunity to take code, add their own assets and release a new, differentiated product under a proprietary license.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This may be affected by the circles in which you move and therefore how you conceive of what is a “business”, but it would be more correct perhaps to say “businesses *which primarily profit from selling software* prefer Apache etc. *for software which they themselves do not write*”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fair point. I was borrowing, to a certain extent, from the original piece which was primarily discussing software vendors. But the additional context you provide can&#8217;t hurt. </p>
<p>Vis a vis your comment that it&#8217;s for &#8220;software which they themselves do not write,&#8221; I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s not generally the case. Many vendors we work with are more comfortable &#8211; for better or for worse &#8211; contributing and author code under non-GPL style licenses. </p>
<p>&#8220;I honestly can’t see a butcher, baker or candlestick making corporation caring that they can’t take the software code they use proprietary and then sell it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m continually surprised at how enterprise buyers &#8211; meaning non-software vendors &#8211; have antiquated and frankly incorrect views of the GPL, and are thereby unreasonably frightened of the license. One of our clients, as an example, mentioned to clients they were considering switching to a GPL license for a variety of reasons. These clients &#8211; large financial houses mostly &#8211; threatened to rip out the software in retaliation, in spite of the fact that they have large swaths of their infrastructure already on GPL&#8217;d software in Linux. </p>
<p>Foolish? Absolutely. But it happens. </p>
<p>&#8220;Indeed to further reinforce the point made earlier, if “businesses” are such fans of the Apache licence etc. then why do they so often release their own software as proprietary code.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because they can. They enjoy the opportunity to take code, add their own assets and release a new, differentiated product under a proprietary license.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit disappointed by the &quot;businesses prefer Apache and other licenses to the GPL? A: Of course they do&quot; section in an otherwise very thorough write-up.

This may be affected by the circles in which you move and therefore how you conceive of what is a &quot;business&quot;, but it would be more correct perhaps to say &quot;businesses *which primarily profit from selling software* prefer Apache etc. *for software which they themselves do not write*&quot;.

I honestly can&#039;t see a butcher, baker or candlestick making corporation caring that they can&#039;t take the software code they use proprietary and then sell it.

Nor can I see a software company (proprietary or not) being happy about another software company taking their Apache released code proprietary and making it incompatible. (Indeed to further reinforce the point made earlier, if &quot;businesses&quot; are such fans of the Apache licence etc. then why do they so often release their own software as proprietary code.)

I&#039;ve obviously not covered the many in&#039;s and out&#039;s here, it&#039;s a complex topic, on that is worthy of more than the standard &quot;businesses hate the GPL&quot; line which while popular, I believe is both uninteresting and untrue.</description>
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<p>This may be affected by the circles in which you move and therefore how you conceive of what is a &#8220;business&#8221;, but it would be more correct perhaps to say &#8220;businesses *which primarily profit from selling software* prefer Apache etc. *for software which they themselves do not write*&#8221;.</p>
<p>I honestly can&#8217;t see a butcher, baker or candlestick making corporation caring that they can&#8217;t take the software code they use proprietary and then sell it.</p>
<p>Nor can I see a software company (proprietary or not) being happy about another software company taking their Apache released code proprietary and making it incompatible. (Indeed to further reinforce the point made earlier, if &#8220;businesses&#8221; are such fans of the Apache licence etc. then why do they so often release their own software as proprietary code.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve obviously not covered the many in&#8217;s and out&#8217;s here, it&#8217;s a complex topic, on that is worthy of more than the standard &#8220;businesses hate the GPL&#8221; line which while popular, I believe is both uninteresting and untrue.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Berrange (berrange) 's status on Monday, 17-Aug-09 20:07:46 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Berrange (berrange) 's status on Monday, 17-Aug-09 20:07:46 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Karsten Wade (quaid) 's status on Monday, 17-Aug-09 17:36:19 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karsten Wade (quaid) 's status on Monday, 17-Aug-09 17:36:19 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 17:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tor Arne Pedersen (hitthebutton) 's status on Monday, 17-Aug-09 16:47:25 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tor Arne Pedersen (hitthebutton) 's status on Monday, 17-Aug-09 16:47:25 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Glyn Moody (glynmoody) 's status on Monday, 17-Aug-09 16:43:43 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glyn Moody (glynmoody) 's status on Monday, 17-Aug-09 16:43:43 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
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