Comments on: FORZA AZURE

By: tecosystems » How Long Until the Battle of the Enterprise Marketplaces?

tecosystems » How Long Until the Battle of the Enterprise Marketplaces? — Thu, 21 May 2009 14:44:26 +0000

[...] a Payment System, Microsoft’s already got one of the hardest to construct: the repository. Azure could be leveraged for the hardware, Geneva for identity, and they have to have some payments [...]

By: Roy Schestowitz

Roy Schestowitz — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:59:38 +0000

Stay away from the cloud, unless it runs on your own Web server.

By: James Governor’s Monkchips » Clouds Condense: Azure, Standards, Logistics and Tooling

Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:17:55 +0000

[...] is a developer advocate, after all) and has a nice Q&A to Microsoft’s launch last week – FORZA AZURE. Q: For those readers that may not have read the news in detail, can you summarize the nature of [...]

By: Simon Phipps

Simon Phipps — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:21:12 +0000

Agreed on both points. But if the analysts don’t mention them, what chance is there the vendors will? As I just tweeter to James, my big fear is we’ll all be too awed by the opportunity to protect our freedoms.

By: sogrady

sogrady — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:35:39 +0000

“Masterfully understated (and no mention of the potential to move to a competing cloud).”

To your first point, perhaps, but I think that at present Microsoft is not particularly unique in this regard. While it’s easier to migrate away from Amazon than Azure or App Engine or Force.com, there are difficulties even there.

Regarding the second, you’re correct, but in making the point it probably would have been worth mentioning that it would be easier to move away from Azure than, say, Force.com. At least you have the potential to use widely embraced languages rather than a unique stack.

Ultimately, the problem of cloud standards and substitutability is both widespread and likely to become more so. Which is why we’re working on it.

By: Simon Phipps

Simon Phipps — Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:04:51 +0000

“Extracting applications from it, however, to deploy locally is likely to prove challenging, not least because the learned helplessness mentioned above.”

Masterfully understated (and no mention of the potential to move to a competing cloud). Let’s face it, Azure is designed for eternal lock-in; the Freedom to Leave wasn’t even in the rushes, let alone left on the cutting room floor.