Comments on: Beyond REST, or Beyond XMPP? Both? The Q&A http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/ because technology is just another ecosystem Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:19:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tecosystems » Google Wave: Tsunami or Microwave? The Q&A http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-552693 tecosystems » Google Wave: Tsunami or Microwave? The Q&A Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:33:56 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-552693 [...] events over HTTP.” It’s true that XMPP is given a leading role in Wave, but as I have for some time, I see this as purely different tools/different jobs. And even if we forget all of the above, the [...] [...] events over HTTP.” It’s true that XMPP is given a leading role in Wave, but as I have for some time, I see this as purely different tools/different jobs. And even if we forget all of the above, the [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » Three Things That People Get Wrong About Cisco’s Jabber Acquisition http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-470867 tecosystems » Three Things That People Get Wrong About Cisco’s Jabber Acquisition Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:40:20 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-470867 [...] long bets, Kellan and Rabble’s presentation, and AMQ vs XMPP. As you might have guessed from the interview I did with ex-Jabber CTO and new Cisco employee Joe Hildebrand a few months [...] [...] long bets, Kellan and Rabble’s presentation, and AMQ vs XMPP. As you might have guessed from the interview I did with ex-Jabber CTO and new Cisco employee Joe Hildebrand a few months [...]

]]> By: The Burgeoning Openly Owned Web » links for 2008-09-06 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-466598 The Burgeoning Openly Owned Web » links for 2008-09-06 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:16:23 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-466598 [...] tecosystems » Beyond REST, or Beyond XMPP? Both? The Q&A Nice introduction to XMPP and all the XEPs (tags: xmpp) [...] [...] tecosystems » Beyond REST, or Beyond XMPP? Both? The Q&A Nice introduction to XMPP and all the XEPs (tags: xmpp) [...]

]]> By: andy.edmonds.be › links for 2008-09-06 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-466595 andy.edmonds.be › links for 2008-09-06 Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:05:18 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-466595 [...] tecosystems » Beyond REST, or Beyond XMPP? Both? The Q&A Nice introduction to XMPP and all the XEPs (tags: xmpp) This was written by andy. Posted on Saturday, September 6, 2008, at 11:05 am. Filed under Delicious. Bookmark the permalink. Follow comments here with the RSS feed. Post a comment or leave a trackback. [...] [...] tecosystems » Beyond REST, or Beyond XMPP? Both? The Q&A Nice introduction to XMPP and all the XEPs (tags: xmpp) This was written by andy. Posted on Saturday, September 6, 2008, at 11:05 am. Filed under Delicious. Bookmark the permalink. Follow comments here with the RSS feed. Post a comment or leave a trackback. [...]

]]> By: JabberWerx AJAX | alexking.org http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-466475 JabberWerx AJAX | alexking.org Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:29:43 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-466475 [...] has a great Q&A on this. [...] [...] has a great Q&A on this. [...]

]]> By: Paper tigers and hidden dragons » Untangled http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-465963 Paper tigers and hidden dragons » Untangled Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:48:42 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-465963 [...] certainly gave a very entertaining talk and one that spilled over into the blogosphere in posts by Stephen O’Grady, Joshua Schachter, and Debasish [...] [...] certainly gave a very entertaining talk and one that spilled over into the blogosphere in posts by Stephen O’Grady, Joshua Schachter, and Debasish [...]

]]> By: Jabber Filaments Blog » Blog Archive » XMPP and (not versus) REST http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-446299 Jabber Filaments Blog » Blog Archive » XMPP and (not versus) REST Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:30:44 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-446299 [...] on vacation or haven’t yet added the feeds at Redmonk to your reader, you may have missed an interesting discussion about the OSCON presentation Beyond REST? Building Data Services with XMPP. As is often the case [...] [...] on vacation or haven’t yet added the feeds at Redmonk to your reader, you may have missed an interesting discussion about the OSCON presentation Beyond REST? Building Data Services with XMPP. As is often the case [...]

]]> By: Joe Hildebrand http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-445533 Joe Hildebrand Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:36:14 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-445533 Charles: the clients connect to the server. If you're allowed (or can be approved) to connect outbound on 5222/tcp, then you're done. Alternately, you can run your server on port 443 and use HTTP CONNECT to get through many proxy servers. If you can't do that, you can always fall back on BOSH. Charles: the clients connect to the server.

If you’re allowed (or can be approved) to connect outbound on 5222/tcp, then you’re done.

Alternately, you can run your server on port 443 and use HTTP CONNECT to get through many proxy servers. If you can’t do that, you can always fall back on BOSH.

]]> By: Joe Hildebrand http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-445463 Joe Hildebrand Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:03:39 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-445463 Most of the queuing protocols are not well-specified or standardized, and do not have Internet-scale addressing. AMQP may be the exception, but it has not been as widely-implemented yet. As well, many of the queueing protocols have been optimized for bank-transaction style guaranteed delivery. There are a whole class of problems for which this level of overkill has too great an impact on latency. Most of the queuing protocols are not well-specified or standardized, and do not have Internet-scale addressing. AMQP may be the exception, but it has not been as widely-implemented yet. As well, many of the queueing protocols have been optimized for bank-transaction style guaranteed delivery. There are a whole class of problems for which this level of overkill has too great an impact on latency.

]]> By: Charles http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/30/xmpp_rest/comment-page-1/#comment-445276 Charles Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:58:34 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/?p=2144#comment-445276 Cool article... Question: How would XMPP clients get through firewalls in a server to client scenario (I understand implications of server to server APIs)? That's something that I have to address in my work unfortunately. Cool article… Question: How would XMPP clients get through firewalls in a server to client scenario (I understand implications of server to server APIs)? That’s something that I have to address in my work unfortunately.

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