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		<title>By: Has anyone - SatelliteGuys.US</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/15/earth-class-mail-the-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-507359</link>
		<dc:creator>Has anyone - SatelliteGuys.US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/15/earth-class-mail-the-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-504596</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earth Class Mail is for those who travel, live in a trailer, or love to waste money on mail delivery.  Don't get me wrong, it is a great idea, but how many people in the world are actually going to care so much about their mail and the environment?  Earth Class Mail doesn't even focus on the environment, they're still using new envelopes to scan documents for customers anyways.  There are employees there that don't even care about customer's mail at all.  By the time it is sent out, the mail pieces are bent out of shape, crippled or ripped up.  Who would want that?  Each mail piece is being man handled  multiple times a day until it is requested to get sent out or shredded/recycled.  There's a high percentage that your mail will get lost in the thousand of mail totes, too.  Mail totes?  What are those?  Oh, they're just tubs that hold up to 50-200 pieces of random letters that are dusty, and sometimes, dead bugs.  (It is a warehouse people.  Think of the health conditions there as well.) By the way, did I say there were thousands of tubs?  Good luck with getting your mail on time, or even getting it at all.

There's also this machine called the V-Sort.  It practically sorts mail into assigned tubs at the end of the run according to the customers wishes.  Doesn't that sound great?  Yeah!  Except the mail pieces that go through get shredded, jammed, or lost into another tub.  Again, good luck.

The only positive I would say about ECM is being able to see your document online.  Oh yeah, military retirees aren't the only ones opening your documents, but anybody who knows how to use a scanner will do the job.  So much security for the customer, right?  As long as the job gets done, it doesn't matter who opens a customer's mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earth Class Mail is for those who travel, live in a trailer, or love to waste money on mail delivery.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, it is a great idea, but how many people in the world are actually going to care so much about their mail and the environment?  Earth Class Mail doesn&#8217;t even focus on the environment, they&#8217;re still using new envelopes to scan documents for customers anyways.  There are employees there that don&#8217;t even care about customer&#8217;s mail at all.  By the time it is sent out, the mail pieces are bent out of shape, crippled or ripped up.  Who would want that?  Each mail piece is being man handled  multiple times a day until it is requested to get sent out or shredded/recycled.  There&#8217;s a high percentage that your mail will get lost in the thousand of mail totes, too.  Mail totes?  What are those?  Oh, they&#8217;re just tubs that hold up to 50-200 pieces of random letters that are dusty, and sometimes, dead bugs.  (It is a warehouse people.  Think of the health conditions there as well.) By the way, did I say there were thousands of tubs?  Good luck with getting your mail on time, or even getting it at all.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also this machine called the V-Sort.  It practically sorts mail into assigned tubs at the end of the run according to the customers wishes.  Doesn&#8217;t that sound great?  Yeah!  Except the mail pieces that go through get shredded, jammed, or lost into another tub.  Again, good luck.</p>
<p>The only positive I would say about ECM is being able to see your document online.  Oh yeah, military retirees aren&#8217;t the only ones opening your documents, but anybody who knows how to use a scanner will do the job.  So much security for the customer, right?  As long as the job gets done, it doesn&#8217;t matter who opens a customer&#8217;s mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate DiNiro</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/15/earth-class-mail-the-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-501378</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate DiNiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

Thanks for the terrific feedback. We certainly appreciate the praise, and we are defiantly listening to the criticisms! We've created a new Community Manager role (that's me!) to ensure that our Product teams get to hear what the user community has to say, and to do a better job of letting the community know about new features that we're hard-at-work on delivering.

Earth Class Mail is on the brink of releasing new shipping options that will alleviate most frustrations our users have expressed over shipping costs. Many customers ask why we can't just slap a stamp on the item that we've already received in their behalf and send it their way? The challenge is that US Postal Service regulations prohibit us from doing so. To make sure that we're in compliance with those regulations, we made some business decisions early on that have us sending items to customers via private carriers.

The good news is that our forthcoming solution will be the next best thing to "slapping a stamp on and forwarding". It will dramatically lower the cost of forward shipping individual items, for instance those times when you only need that individual document or occasional check.

I also want to mention that thanks to feedback we've received in the press, the blogs and from our users (and our own struggles, as we're all users too!), our engineering and user experience teams have been working diligently to rebuild the user experience of Earth Class Mail. We have learned a wealth of information about how people use and interact with our online postal mail service, and we are translating that feedback into a beta of the new UI, expected to launch sometime in early 2009.

I'd also like to take this opportunity to specifically address some of the comments you've received on this post regarding our customer service.

Alan Friedrichsen mentions  that the cost of shipping documents seems expensive, and as I mentioned above, we're working to change that. He goes further to say that he felt that our customer service is somewhat lacking, and I wanted to let your readers know that we're working on making that experience better for everyone. We're lucky to have a smart and dedicated Customer Support team that have become veritable experts of USPS regulations that govern Commercial Mail Receiving Agencies (CMRA) like Earth Class Mail.

Alan also expresses dismay over our cancellation and refund policies, and I wanted to let  your readers know that we are currently reviewing every bit of communication regarding our policies. We want to make sure that they are clear, transparent and up front. We don't like surprises and we don't expect that our customers should feel as though they are getting any either!

"Be Warned" writes that Earth Class Mail is ignoring USPS change of address forms, however we have absolutely nothing to do with the handling nor processing of change of address forms. Generally, it's executed by the Post Office bearing the Zip code from which you are directing mail away from.

The really important thing to note is that the US Postal Service regulations do not allow anyone to use the US Postal Service change of address form to direct mail away from a CMRA. Earth Class Mail is but just one example of a CMRA, and other include mail forwarding services and private mailbox stores than many of us are familiar with. This is why we try to stress that people getting started with Earth Class Mail SHOULD NOT use a USPS change of address form to have their mail directed to us, especially if there's even a slight chance that they will need to have their mail redirected somewhere else if the future. We always recommend that you notify your mailers as to the new address to avoid this situation.

Thanks again, and we appreciate the thoughts from you and your readers. Keep 'em coming!

Nate DiNiro
Community Manager
Earth Class Mail Corp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven,</p>
<p>Thanks for the terrific feedback. We certainly appreciate the praise, and we are defiantly listening to the criticisms! We&#8217;ve created a new Community Manager role (that&#8217;s me!) to ensure that our Product teams get to hear what the user community has to say, and to do a better job of letting the community know about new features that we&#8217;re hard-at-work on delivering.</p>
<p>Earth Class Mail is on the brink of releasing new shipping options that will alleviate most frustrations our users have expressed over shipping costs. Many customers ask why we can&#8217;t just slap a stamp on the item that we&#8217;ve already received in their behalf and send it their way? The challenge is that US Postal Service regulations prohibit us from doing so. To make sure that we&#8217;re in compliance with those regulations, we made some business decisions early on that have us sending items to customers via private carriers.</p>
<p>The good news is that our forthcoming solution will be the next best thing to &#8220;slapping a stamp on and forwarding&#8221;. It will dramatically lower the cost of forward shipping individual items, for instance those times when you only need that individual document or occasional check.</p>
<p>I also want to mention that thanks to feedback we&#8217;ve received in the press, the blogs and from our users (and our own struggles, as we&#8217;re all users too!), our engineering and user experience teams have been working diligently to rebuild the user experience of Earth Class Mail. We have learned a wealth of information about how people use and interact with our online postal mail service, and we are translating that feedback into a beta of the new UI, expected to launch sometime in early 2009.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to take this opportunity to specifically address some of the comments you&#8217;ve received on this post regarding our customer service.</p>
<p>Alan Friedrichsen mentions  that the cost of shipping documents seems expensive, and as I mentioned above, we&#8217;re working to change that. He goes further to say that he felt that our customer service is somewhat lacking, and I wanted to let your readers know that we&#8217;re working on making that experience better for everyone. We&#8217;re lucky to have a smart and dedicated Customer Support team that have become veritable experts of USPS regulations that govern Commercial Mail Receiving Agencies (CMRA) like Earth Class Mail.</p>
<p>Alan also expresses dismay over our cancellation and refund policies, and I wanted to let  your readers know that we are currently reviewing every bit of communication regarding our policies. We want to make sure that they are clear, transparent and up front. We don&#8217;t like surprises and we don&#8217;t expect that our customers should feel as though they are getting any either!</p>
<p>&#8220;Be Warned&#8221; writes that Earth Class Mail is ignoring USPS change of address forms, however we have absolutely nothing to do with the handling nor processing of change of address forms. Generally, it&#8217;s executed by the Post Office bearing the Zip code from which you are directing mail away from.</p>
<p>The really important thing to note is that the US Postal Service regulations do not allow anyone to use the US Postal Service change of address form to direct mail away from a CMRA. Earth Class Mail is but just one example of a CMRA, and other include mail forwarding services and private mailbox stores than many of us are familiar with. This is why we try to stress that people getting started with Earth Class Mail SHOULD NOT use a USPS change of address form to have their mail directed to us, especially if there&#8217;s even a slight chance that they will need to have their mail redirected somewhere else if the future. We always recommend that you notify your mailers as to the new address to avoid this situation.</p>
<p>Thanks again, and we appreciate the thoughts from you and your readers. Keep &#8216;em coming!</p>
<p>Nate DiNiro<br />
Community Manager<br />
Earth Class Mail Corp.</p>
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		<title>By: be warned</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/15/earth-class-mail-the-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-499092</link>
		<dc:creator>be warned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you choose to discontinue using the Earth Class Mail service, they will ignore a USPS change-of-address form, and will refuse to forward your mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you choose to discontinue using the Earth Class Mail service, they will ignore a USPS change-of-address form, and will refuse to forward your mail.</p>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; Earth Class Mail: Still Open for Business?</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/15/earth-class-mail-the-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-479137</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; Earth Class Mail: Still Open for Business?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Update: If you read this, you might also be interested in my three month review of the service, which can be found here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Update: If you read this, you might also be interested in my three month review of the service, which can be found here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/15/earth-class-mail-the-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-469350</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently came across a blog site called EarthMailFree (earthmailfree.com) that talked a little bit about Earth Class Mail.  The guy mentioned another similar service called MyPostalMail.  Doesn't look like they are offering pay services yet, but they seem much less expensive.  I tried out their demo.  A little basic, but to me, looks much better than ECM's ugly user interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently came across a blog site called EarthMailFree (earthmailfree.com) that talked a little bit about Earth Class Mail.  The guy mentioned another similar service called MyPostalMail.  Doesn&#8217;t look like they are offering pay services yet, but they seem much less expensive.  I tried out their demo.  A little basic, but to me, looks much better than ECM&#8217;s ugly user interface.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Friedrichsen</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/07/15/earth-class-mail-the-three-month-review/comment-page-1/#comment-451088</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Friedrichsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!  One thing you pointed out which ECM tends to gloss over is that it can be prohibitively expensive if you ever need to have any of your mail items physically shipped to you.  Unlike other services, ECM won't use the USPS to forward your mail, insisting instead on using couriers like DHL, UPS, or FedEx.  So unless you get enough mail that you can justify shipping it in bulk or unless you're willing to read everything online, prepare to pay a lot more money each month to have even a handful of letters physically forwarded.  In my case, I receive maybe 5 legal documents each month that need to be shipped to me, and I was looking at paying $50/month extra for those shipments unless I was willing to wait until the end of the month and ship them all at once.

Also, I found ECM's customer service to be somewhat
lacking.  I didn't find out about the $10/shipment thing until I received my first critical piece of mail, and by then, it was too late.  I was forced to have that piece of mail shipped, and I immediately canceled my account thereafter.  ECM was happy to cancel the account, but they didn't inform me until the cancellation had been processed that I wouldn't be receiving a refund for the months I had already paid in advance.

Buyer beware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  One thing you pointed out which ECM tends to gloss over is that it can be prohibitively expensive if you ever need to have any of your mail items physically shipped to you.  Unlike other services, ECM won&#8217;t use the USPS to forward your mail, insisting instead on using couriers like DHL, UPS, or FedEx.  So unless you get enough mail that you can justify shipping it in bulk or unless you&#8217;re willing to read everything online, prepare to pay a lot more money each month to have even a handful of letters physically forwarded.  In my case, I receive maybe 5 legal documents each month that need to be shipped to me, and I was looking at paying $50/month extra for those shipments unless I was willing to wait until the end of the month and ship them all at once.</p>
<p>Also, I found ECM&#8217;s customer service to be somewhat<br />
lacking.  I didn&#8217;t find out about the $10/shipment thing until I received my first critical piece of mail, and by then, it was too late.  I was forced to have that piece of mail shipped, and I immediately canceled my account thereafter.  ECM was happy to cancel the account, but they didn&#8217;t inform me until the cancellation had been processed that I wouldn&#8217;t be receiving a refund for the months I had already paid in advance.</p>
<p>Buyer beware.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff McNeill &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Going Virtual</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff McNeill &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Going Virtual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] decided on them when the very next day Stephen O&#8217;Grady of Redmonk gave a glowing write up of his 3-month experience with them. Decision [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] decided on them when the very next day Stephen O&#8217;Grady of Redmonk gave a glowing write up of his 3-month experience with them. Decision [...]</p>
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