Comments on: Question for Cloud Campers: The Cloud and Standards

By: Who owns the keys to the clouds?

Who owns the keys to the clouds? — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:05:45 +0000

[...] portability ain’t so easy… Mi compadri Stephen O’Grady recently posted some good thoughts on Cloud Standards but its also worth considering the physical limits of data portability (we might be talking about [...]

By: tecosystems » Break for the Clouds: Top 5 Reasons The Cloud Benefits from a Recession

Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:41:35 +0000

[...] piece this week on lockin echoes the concerns that I have had that have led to both talk (1, 2) and action (ping me for details) on the question of [...]

By: James Governor’s Monkchips » Whose Cloud Is It Anyway? Goodbye Ed

James Governor’s Monkchips » Whose Cloud Is It Anyway? Goodbye Ed — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:22:14 +0000

[...] aspects of what Dion Hinchliffe has defined as Cloudsourcing. Perhaps we could even create some standard templates for [...]

By: James Governor’s Monkchips » CloudCamp London: the inauguration

James Governor’s Monkchips » CloudCamp London: the inauguration — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:24:35 +0000

[...] ain’t so easy… Mi compadri Stephen O’Grady recently posted some good thoughts on Cloud Standards but its also worth considering the physical limits of data portability (we might be talking [...]

By: tecosystems » Hey You, Standarize My Cloud

tecosystems » Hey You, Standarize My Cloud — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:40:28 +0000

[...] lock-in, then, is the question, what’s the answer? You guessed it: standards. Since we’ve talked about it, I’ve heard numerous names thrown around as potential [...]

By: William Vambenepe’s blog » Blog Archive » Elastra and data center configuration formats

Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:04:40 +0000

[...] on 2008/6/25: Stephen O’Grady has an interesting post about the role of standards in Cloud computing. But he only looks at it form the perspective of possible standardization of the interfaces used by [...]

By: Donnie Berkholz

Donnie Berkholz — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:25:43 +0000

Nice post. That graphic is extremely confusing, though, because the boxes appear to be standalone items instead of logo descriptions. Perhaps that’s because of the way they’re drawn and connected.

By: People Over Process » Hyperic CloudStatus - Starting the Ball Rolling

People Over Process » Hyperic CloudStatus - Starting the Ball Rolling — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:11:59 +0000

[...] end-to-end monitoring. After that, of course, is moving beyond just Amazon. Mixed into all of that, as Stephen brilliantly pointed out, is jimmying standards into the cloud to avoid (valid) lock-in [...]

By: Bert Armijo

Bert Armijo — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:15:59 +0000

Your post regarding standards for cloud computing is quite timely. 3tera announced last month that as part of our Cloudware architecture we’ll begin over the next few months to publish the interface standards between the control plane, the execution environment, metering etc as well as our descriptor language ADL, and use them as the basis for a standards body submission to get the ball rolling.

As for standards being the work of laggards, that can be true in slow moving markets where large laggards freeze the market with long protracted standards efforts. However, standards can also serve to provide a solid foundation for further innovation at higher levels and IMHO that’s what we hope to spur here.

By: Jonathan Altman

Jonathan Altman — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:43:04 +0000

What about Heroku (http://heroku.com/), which I think is an interesting hybrid in this space, although they’re only in a beta period now? Rails hosted on Amazon’s EC2+S3 infrastructure. It covers an interesting sweet spot between Joyent and Google Apps in that you don’t get to choose the OS, but you do have Freedom To Leave and take your app you to some other hosting environment supporting Rails that makes either more or fewer choices for you regarding OS/database: e.g. Joyent or Dreamhost, or even Amazon EC2+S3 if you wanted. It’s extra interesting in that it is also layered on top of Amazon’s cloud entry.