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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Running Out of Cloud Metaphors: Also, Red Dog?</title>
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	<description>because technology is just another ecosystem</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; Will There Be Only One Cloud?</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/04/09/microsoft_cloud/#comment-448846</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; Will There Be Only One Cloud?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to change. Microsoft will not willingly cede such a crucial market to a rival platform, hence the pending arrival of Red Dog and a few other Microsoft cloud initiatives. So we&#8217;ll have at least Linux and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to change. Microsoft will not willingly cede such a crucial market to a rival platform, hence the pending arrival of Red Dog and a few other Microsoft cloud initiatives. So we&#8217;ll have at least Linux and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: luisdans WebLog : Mayo 20, 2008. Anti-moore en construcci&#243;n de software. El balance entre c&#243;mputo en la nube, en el centro empresarial y en el dispositivo.</title>
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		<dc:creator>luisdans WebLog : Mayo 20, 2008. Anti-moore en construcci&#243;n de software. El balance entre c&#243;mputo en la nube, en el centro empresarial y en el dispositivo.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] en aplicaciones compuestas. A todo esto es necesario leer lo que Amazon aprendi&#243;. Todo est&#225; por ser anunciado, pero lo que es claro es que Microsoft ofrecer&#225; a las empresas de todo tama&#241;o lograr el [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] en aplicaciones compuestas. A todo esto es necesario leer lo que Amazon aprendi&#243;. Todo est&#225; por ser anunciado, pero lo que es claro es que Microsoft ofrecer&#225; a las empresas de todo tama&#241;o lograr el [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeo</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google won't be free once they're in production status and you have an app that surpasses the threshold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google won&#8217;t be free once they&#8217;re in production status and you have an app that surpasses the threshold.</p>
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		<title>By: Niraj J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niraj J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"They aim to be “lowest cost per node,” which would seem difficult as Google already has set a floor of “free”

I think they are aiming at  lowest "operating cost" per node. I am sure google has costs even if it charges nothing.  

Google with free will probably have the lowest entry point to customer and my guess is that Microsoft will also have some sort of free option.

I think the war is going to be similar to the traditional platform wars we have seen in the past(J2EE vs .NET types) with differentiators being the choice of programming language , IDE integration, automated deployments , monitoring capability,  integration of services offered(batch job , asynchronous , Database , singlesingon)

Like any market this market will evolve into three segments.

Segment 1- Amazon , SUN , HP , IBM - there strength coming from exposing the Datacenter 

Segment 2 - Google , MSFT , Amazon , SUN - Application development 

Segment 3 - SalesForce.com , SAP and lot more - packaged applications with the ability to customize them in the cloud.

I am sure that the vendors will try to cross cut the segments(just like you have Honda Accord is in mid and luxury segment) and have offerings spanning across all three segments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They aim to be “lowest cost per node,” which would seem difficult as Google already has set a floor of “free”</p>
<p>I think they are aiming at  lowest &#8220;operating cost&#8221; per node. I am sure google has costs even if it charges nothing.  </p>
<p>Google with free will probably have the lowest entry point to customer and my guess is that Microsoft will also have some sort of free option.</p>
<p>I think the war is going to be similar to the traditional platform wars we have seen in the past(J2EE vs .NET types) with differentiators being the choice of programming language , IDE integration, automated deployments , monitoring capability,  integration of services offered(batch job , asynchronous , Database , singlesingon)</p>
<p>Like any market this market will evolve into three segments.</p>
<p>Segment 1- Amazon , SUN , HP , IBM - there strength coming from exposing the Datacenter </p>
<p>Segment 2 - Google , MSFT , Amazon , SUN - Application development </p>
<p>Segment 3 - SalesForce.com , SAP and lot more - packaged applications with the ability to customize them in the cloud.</p>
<p>I am sure that the vendors will try to cross cut the segments(just like you have Honda Accord is in mid and luxury segment) and have offerings spanning across all three segments.</p>
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