Comments on: Nokia: $150M to the Trolltech Under the Bridge http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/ because technology is just another ecosystem Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:51:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: tecosystems » Nokia’s Open Source Response: The Symbian Q&A http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-419551 tecosystems » Nokia’s Open Source Response: The Symbian Q&A Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:08:23 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-419551 [...] the different investments - both internal and M&A - will compete or not with each other. As discussed at the time of the Trolltech acquisition, the decision to support two competing frameworks in GTK [...] [...] the different investments - both internal and M&A - will compete or not with each other. As discussed at the time of the Trolltech acquisition, the decision to support two competing frameworks in GTK [...]

]]> By: Jeff Waugh http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293915 Jeff Waugh Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:06:43 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293915 Albeit having only had a few days to digest this (and it hit the press just as linux.conf.au started!), I'm coming to the opinion that this turns out to be a good thing for GNOME, both on the desktop and mobile. We'll have to chat. :-) Albeit having only had a few days to digest this (and it hit the press just as linux.conf.au started!), I’m coming to the opinion that this turns out to be a good thing for GNOME, both on the desktop and mobile. We’ll have to chat. :-)

]]> By: James http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293683 James Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:15:25 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293683 Bill: apparently <a href="http://skyfire.com/product">Skyfire</a> is <a href="http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2008/01/29/Skyfire">based on Mozilla</a>. Plus maemo is defaulting to the Mozilla-based microB. Which is not to say WebKit isn't gaining share, but there's no clear winner in the embedded space (Opera still runs on many devices, including the Wii). Bill: apparently Skyfire is based on Mozilla. Plus maemo is defaulting to the Mozilla-based microB. Which is not to say WebKit isn’t gaining share, but there’s no clear winner in the embedded space (Opera still runs on many devices, including the Wii).

]]> By: Bill de hOra http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293566 Bill de hOra Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:52:40 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293566 "not iPhone nice" Webkit (iPhone. Android) is forked from KDE/KHTML. I'm not sure, but I think webkit just became the de facto mobile browser. “not iPhone nice”

Webkit (iPhone. Android) is forked from KDE/KHTML.

I’m not sure, but I think webkit just became the de facto mobile browser.

]]> By: Thomas Downing http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293562 Thomas Downing Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:46:53 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293562 TrollTech and Qt have a presence in telephony areas other than cell phones. It was used as the GUI framework for IPC's IQ/MAX Turret - the best selling turret made to date. http://www.ipc.com/meetmax TrollTech and Qt have a presence in telephony areas other than cell phones. It was used as the GUI framework for IPC’s IQ/MAX Turret - the best selling turret made to date.

http://www.ipc.com/meetmax

]]> By: Dalibor Topic http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293515 Dalibor Topic Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:38:50 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293515 Ah, crap, the openid failure ate my comment. Ah, crap, the openid failure ate my comment.

]]> By: Dalibor Topic http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293514 Dalibor Topic Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:37:43 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293514 There is another important thing: Qt is a joy to write code for, and has those weird Java bindings (Jambi) for people who care about writing their code in Java, and using Qt underneath. As Nokia will likely use Qtopia to replace Open C on Symbian, that potentially means write code in Java on any Qt-supported desktop platform (win32/os x/unix), and have it run fast on Nokia's phones without hassle. Basically, it's Google's Android strategy, only executed well, as Nokia is able to pull an existing, huge ecosystem onto their phones, rather than having to build up their own from scratch, as Google has to. And since Nokia does not desperately *have* to use a VM, it can equally well keep Qtopia exposed as a native API as well as the Java bindings on top of it, allowing existing code to be 'ported' over easily, while allowing new code to be deployed without cross-compilation. Add to that that Qt for Windows Mobile should be shipping this year, and you have a very good reason for Nokia to own the sole cross-platform mobile application technology: write to Qt, run fast on the majority of phones & mobile devices, getting features Google has to integrate into Android themselves, like WebKit, for free. There is another important thing: Qt is a joy to write code for, and has those weird Java bindings (Jambi) for people who care about writing their code in Java, and using Qt underneath. As Nokia will likely use Qtopia to replace Open C on Symbian, that potentially means write code in Java on any Qt-supported desktop platform (win32/os x/unix), and have it run fast on Nokia’s phones without hassle.

Basically, it’s Google’s Android strategy, only executed well, as Nokia is able to pull an existing, huge ecosystem onto their phones, rather than having to build up their own from scratch, as Google has to.
And since Nokia does not desperately *have* to use a VM, it can equally well keep Qtopia exposed as a native API as well as the Java bindings on top of it, allowing existing code to be ‘ported’ over easily, while allowing new code to be deployed without cross-compilation.

Add to that that Qt for Windows Mobile should be shipping this year, and you have a very good reason for Nokia to own the sole cross-platform mobile application technology: write to Qt, run fast on the majority of phones & mobile devices, getting features Google has to integrate into Android themselves, like WebKit, for free.

]]> By: James Governor http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293508 James Governor Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:34:10 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/29/nokia-150m-to-the-trolltech-under-the-bridge/#comment-293508 and you think *I* should be covering mobile? ;-) and you think *I* should be covering mobile? ;-)

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