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	<title>Comments on: Give Me a M: The MySQL/Sun Q&#038;A</title>
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	<description>because technology is just another ecosystem</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bruce</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-310732</link>
		<dc:creator>bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that this deal may go sour for both parties .. I haven't seen Sun do much right (from the inside) ... I wonder what people are leaving open as a back door in case MySQL becomes "privatized" and people have to use something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that this deal may go sour for both parties .. I haven&#8217;t seen Sun do much right (from the inside) &#8230; I wonder what people are leaving open as a back door in case MySQL becomes &#8220;privatized&#8221; and people have to use something else?</p>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Strong Leaders, Strange Bedfellows and The Art of War by Sun 2</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-304534</link>
		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Strong Leaders, Strange Bedfellows and The Art of War by Sun 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] really need to read Stephen&#8217;s excellent Q&#38;A for full context about the hows and whys of Sun&#8217;s acquisition. And of course Jonathan&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] really need to read Stephen&#8217;s excellent Q&amp;A for full context about the hows and whys of Sun&#8217;s acquisition. And of course Jonathan&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Mace</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-301516</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Mace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question still unanswered: Does Sun inherit MySQL's Eclipse Foundation membership once the deal closes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question still unanswered: Does Sun inherit MySQL&#8217;s Eclipse Foundation membership once the deal closes?</p>
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		<title>By: OS &#38; Venture Capital Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; After MySQL Exit – What Next?</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-291451</link>
		<dc:creator>OS &#38; Venture Capital Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; After MySQL Exit – What Next?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (disclaimer: I was a seed investor in to MySQL). For good analysis check e.g. Stephen O’Grady’s  post  as well as Stephen Walli’s  thougths  and for the inside scoop in Jonathan’s  post  and Zack [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (disclaimer: I was a seed investor in to MySQL). For good analysis check e.g. Stephen O’Grady’s  post  as well as Stephen Walli’s  thougths  and for the inside scoop in Jonathan’s  post  and Zack [...]</p>
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		<title>By: And the best Sun/MySQL Acquisition Analysis Award goes to&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-287189</link>
		<dc:creator>And the best Sun/MySQL Acquisition Analysis Award goes to&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if you&#8217;re curious, Mr. &#8220;My Sox stole your Tribe&#8217;s training program&#8221; O&#8217;Grady forced a ballot-cha....   Socialize it: Share this post with others.      Posted by md on January 23rd, 2008 &#124; Filed in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if you&#8217;re curious, Mr. &#8220;My Sox stole your Tribe&#8217;s training program&#8221; O&#8217;Grady forced a ballot-cha&#8230;.   Socialize it: Share this post with others.      Posted by md on January 23rd, 2008 | Filed in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Niraj J</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-284170</link>
		<dc:creator>Niraj J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider this:

If Sun was to offer an Amazon EC2 type service and could offer the "software stack with support embedded in the monthly pricing" - which stack would it be

Solaris , My Sql , Sun App Server , Java 

Needless to say , I will be willing to pay a slight premium over what EC2 offers because I get the support much needed specially in a service environment where all things are not in my control.

Here in lies the differentiator.

HaaS is IMHO a LAMP killer. As a business applications developer all that I care about is the programming model(Essential my choice of language and frameworks) and that the underlying infrastructure should reliably (who ever it might be from) perform. 

The underlying infrastructure to a developer is really a commodity (RDBMS , operating system , storage , bandwidth , CPU power)  

The application that the business writes is the core of the business and I could foresee religious battles between using GWT or Flash or JSF in the application development department of the company. But if a vendor promises certain benchmarks on CPU availability , Database uptime and performance , bandwidth etc - I do not anticipate a major religious wars (unless of course there is an inhouse datacenter with vested interests )

I am not saying that sun will not give choice to the customer , but solaris and  mysql based stack could turn out to be a better proposition for the customers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider this:</p>
<p>If Sun was to offer an Amazon EC2 type service and could offer the &#8220;software stack with support embedded in the monthly pricing&#8221; - which stack would it be</p>
<p>Solaris , My Sql , Sun App Server , Java </p>
<p>Needless to say , I will be willing to pay a slight premium over what EC2 offers because I get the support much needed specially in a service environment where all things are not in my control.</p>
<p>Here in lies the differentiator.</p>
<p>HaaS is IMHO a LAMP killer. As a business applications developer all that I care about is the programming model(Essential my choice of language and frameworks) and that the underlying infrastructure should reliably (who ever it might be from) perform. </p>
<p>The underlying infrastructure to a developer is really a commodity (RDBMS , operating system , storage , bandwidth , CPU power)  </p>
<p>The application that the business writes is the core of the business and I could foresee religious battles between using GWT or Flash or JSF in the application development department of the company. But if a vendor promises certain benchmarks on CPU availability , Database uptime and performance , bandwidth etc - I do not anticipate a major religious wars (unless of course there is an inhouse datacenter with vested interests )</p>
<p>I am not saying that sun will not give choice to the customer , but solaris and  mysql based stack could turn out to be a better proposition for the customers</p>
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		<title>By: Sun kauft Mysql und Google sieht alt aus &#124; Heiko Eckert - Blog</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-283928</link>
		<dc:creator>Sun kauft Mysql und Google sieht alt aus &#124; Heiko Eckert - Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also news.com sowieso auch - techtarget, dc-knowledge, tecosystems und jeremy bieten viel Diskussionsfl&#228;che in den [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Niraj J</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-283667</link>
		<dc:creator>Niraj J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more perspective on the acquisition

http://www.gandalf-lab.com/blog/2008/01/database-20.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more perspective on the acquisition</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gandalf-lab.com/blog/2008/01/database-20.html" >http://www.gandalf-lab.com/blog/2008/01/database-20.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stefano&#8217;s Linotype &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Sun bought MySQL</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-283365</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefano&#8217;s Linotype &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Sun bought MySQL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Great commentaries about the acquisition can be spotted around already, but there is something I feel it has been missing in the move. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Great commentaries about the acquisition can be spotted around already, but there is something I feel it has been missing in the move. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Oracle Buys The Present That Keeps on Giving: on BEA and M&#38;A</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2008/01/16/sun_mysql/#comment-283159</link>
		<dc:creator>James Governor&#8217;s Monkchips &#187; Oracle Buys The Present That Keeps on Giving: on BEA and M&#38;A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as Stephen put me putting it:  &#8220;BEA is very much the traditional software model, while MySQL is more the upstart, [...]</description>
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