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	<title>Comments on: The RedMonk IT Report: Thanks Zimbra, Hello Google Apps</title>
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	<description>because technology is just another ecosystem</description>
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		<title>By: Pete Tong</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-686925</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Tong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 21:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to keep your label structure you should check a tool like http://bit.ly/eskrY5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to keep your label structure you should check a tool like <a href="http://bit.ly/eskrY5" >http://bit.ly/eskrY5</a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-523121</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you elaborate on how the Google&#039;s import tool that you&#039;ve used could have migrated your users&#039; calendars?

AFAICT from google&#039;s own documentation about their &quot;IMAP mail migration&quot; tool for Google Apps, they advice to explicitly exclude the exhange calendar folders from migration, claiming that otherwise the calendar events will end up as regular email in the Google Apps accounts.

(http://google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=135950)

No reference to any other means by which calendars will get migrated en-bulk is made there, nor do I seem to be able to find much on the subject elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you elaborate on how the Google&#8217;s import tool that you&#8217;ve used could have migrated your users&#8217; calendars?</p>
<p>AFAICT from google&#8217;s own documentation about their &#8220;IMAP mail migration&#8221; tool for Google Apps, they advice to explicitly exclude the exhange calendar folders from migration, claiming that otherwise the calendar events will end up as regular email in the Google Apps accounts.</p>
<p>(<a href="http://google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=135950" >http://google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?answer=135950</a>)</p>
<p>No reference to any other means by which calendars will get migrated en-bulk is made there, nor do I seem to be able to find much on the subject elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Smith</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-442183</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before visiting your site, just finished reviewing the blog of a family that moved &lt;a href=&quot;http://christian.nimsky.net/blog/2007/9/27/moving-from-gapps-to-zimbra.html&quot;&gt;from Google Apps to Zimbra&lt;/a&gt;.... led me to a number of illustrated blog entries comparing &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.01.com/?cat=98&quot;&gt;Zimbra vs. Google&#039;s&lt;/a&gt;. Have you had any second thoughts at this point about Zimbra?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before visiting your site, just finished reviewing the blog of a family that moved <a href="http://christian.nimsky.net/blog/2007/9/27/moving-from-gapps-to-zimbra.html">from Google Apps to Zimbra</a>&#8230;. led me to a number of illustrated blog entries comparing <a href="http://blog.01.com/?cat=98">Zimbra vs. Google&#8217;s</a>. Have you had any second thoughts at this point about Zimbra?</p>
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		<title>By: theSalmonFarm Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Micro Businesses</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-132995</link>
		<dc:creator>theSalmonFarm Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Micro Businesses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Google Apps takes what they learned from managing very large scale services and applied it to micro businesses. You can read of a growing number of micro businesses - consulting firms, start-ups, entrepreneurs, etc. - are &#8220;outsourcing&#8221; to Google. Redmonk&#8217;s Stephen O&#8217;Grady&#160;writes a good reference point. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Google Apps takes what they learned from managing very large scale services and applied it to micro businesses. You can read of a growing number of micro businesses &#8211; consulting firms, start-ups, entrepreneurs, etc. &#8211; are &#8220;outsourcing&#8221; to Google. Redmonk&#8217;s Stephen O&#8217;Grady&nbsp;writes a good reference point. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny Carpenter&#8217;s blog &#187; Daily del.icio.us for Jul 21, 2007 through Jul 22, 2007</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-130447</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinny Carpenter&#8217;s blog &#187; Daily del.icio.us for Jul 21, 2007 through Jul 22, 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tecosystems &#187; The RedMonk IT Report: Thanks Zimbra, Hello Google Apps - With only a week?s usage under our belt, it?s far too early to render a full verdict on Google Apps, but thus far I?m impressed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tecosystems &raquo; The RedMonk IT Report: Thanks Zimbra, Hello Google Apps &#8211; With only a week?s usage under our belt, it?s far too early to render a full verdict on Google Apps, but thus far I?m impressed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave rosenberg</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-119120</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave rosenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought this might be helpful 
http://www.hanselman.com/blog/MigratingAFamilyToGoogleAppsFromGmailThunderbirdOutlookAndOthersTheDefinitiveGuide.aspx

this guy migrated his whole family to Google Apps which is probably even more painful than developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought this might be helpful<br />
<a href="http://www.hanselman.com/blog/MigratingAFamilyToGoogleAppsFromGmailThunderbirdOutlookAndOthersTheDefinitiveGuide.aspx" >http://www.hanselman.com/blog/MigratingAFamilyToGoogleAppsFromGmailThunderbirdOutlookAndOthersTheDefinitiveGuide.aspx</a></p>
<p>this guy migrated his whole family to Google Apps which is probably even more painful than developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Porter</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-119078</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DISCLAIMER: Our company is a Zimbra hosting company (but not the one previously used by RedMonks).

There are a few solutions to the issues you were experiencing with Zimbra.

SMS Notifications: This can easily be done in the preference panel for the individual user account by the user himself or an admin.  It&#039;s under Options --&gt; Mail --&gt; Enable address for new mail notifications.

Mobile Access:  Right or wrong, Zimbra has chosen to  focus on utilizing the native mobile clients rather than mobile browsers for access.  Their simple web client does work but does not include calendar.  Out of curiosity, did you try Zimbra Mobile - http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra_mobile.html ?

SPAM: I wholeheartedly agree that the spam filtering in Zimbra is not sufficient, especially when compared to Gmail, Postini, and a few others.

Free/Busy: It&#039;s there... kinda, but just buried under setting up an appointment.   Too clunky unless you use the Outlook plugin which brings it front-and-center.

Hope this information helps if you ever play with Zimbra again. 


Cheers,
  Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DISCLAIMER: Our company is a Zimbra hosting company (but not the one previously used by RedMonks).</p>
<p>There are a few solutions to the issues you were experiencing with Zimbra.</p>
<p>SMS Notifications: This can easily be done in the preference panel for the individual user account by the user himself or an admin.  It&#8217;s under Options &#8211;&gt; Mail &#8211;&gt; Enable address for new mail notifications.</p>
<p>Mobile Access:  Right or wrong, Zimbra has chosen to  focus on utilizing the native mobile clients rather than mobile browsers for access.  Their simple web client does work but does not include calendar.  Out of curiosity, did you try Zimbra Mobile &#8211; <a href="http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra_mobile.html" >http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra_mobile.html</a> ?</p>
<p>SPAM: I wholeheartedly agree that the spam filtering in Zimbra is not sufficient, especially when compared to Gmail, Postini, and a few others.</p>
<p>Free/Busy: It&#8217;s there&#8230; kinda, but just buried under setting up an appointment.   Too clunky unless you use the Outlook plugin which brings it front-and-center.</p>
<p>Hope this information helps if you ever play with Zimbra again. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
  Matthew</p>
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		<title>By: אודיופיל@AudioPill &#187; Exchange 2007</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-119001</link>
		<dc:creator>אודיופיל@AudioPill &#187; Exchange 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] תפקידי השרת: תעבורת קצה, תעבורת רכזת, תיבת דואר, גישת לקוח ו- Unified Messaging Microsoft Office Outlook 2007 גוגל: הכריזה שבוע שעבר כל כלי חדש שמאפשר יצוא של כל תיבות המייל לגימייל Email migration tool  Google Apps [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] תפקידי השרת: תעבורת קצה, תעבורת רכזת, תיבת דואר, גישת לקוח ו- Unified Messaging Microsoft Office Outlook 2007 גוגל: הכריזה שבוע שעבר כל כלי חדש שמאפשר יצוא של כל תיבות המייל לגימייל Email migration tool  Google Apps [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sogrady</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-118549</link>
		<dc:creator>sogrady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luis: excellent suggestion, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luis: excellent suggestion, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Monkcast #8: Goodbye Zimbra, Hello Google Apps (for RedMonk) &#124; Berlind&#8217;s Testbed &#124; ZDNet.com</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/07/05/google_apps_migration/comment-page-1/#comment-118336</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Monkcast #8: Goodbye Zimbra, Hello Google Apps (for RedMonk) &#124; Berlind&#8217;s Testbed &#124; ZDNet.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discussion had to do with RedMonk&#8217;s migration off Zimbra to Google Apps (a process that was apparently managed by RedMonk&#8217;s Stephen O&#8217;Grady who, ironically, wasn&#8217;t present for the podcast). But before we found our way to the Google [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] discussion had to do with RedMonk&#8217;s migration off Zimbra to Google Apps (a process that was apparently managed by RedMonk&#8217;s Stephen O&#8217;Grady who, ironically, wasn&#8217;t present for the podcast). But before we found our way to the Google [...]</p>
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