Comments on: Project Indiana: The Q&A http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/ because technology is just another ecosystem Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:05:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: 451 CAOS Theory » 451 CAOS Links - 2007.06.07 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-390076 451 CAOS Theory » 451 CAOS Links - 2007.06.07 Thu, 22 May 2008 12:08:31 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-390076 [...] Project Indiana: The Q&A, RedMonk - tecosystems, Stephen O’Grady (Press Release) [...] [...] Project Indiana: The Q&A, RedMonk - tecosystems, Stephen O’Grady (Press Release) [...]

]]> By: Open Source Links: 07-06-2007 | Commercial Open Source Software http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-371927 Open Source Links: 07-06-2007 | Commercial Open Source Software Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:03:26 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-371927 [...] Project Indiana: The Q&A - Stephen O’grady thinks Indiana is precisely the kind of change that’s needed to make OpenSolaris an option where it’s not today. [...] [...] Project Indiana: The Q&A - Stephen O’grady thinks Indiana is precisely the kind of change that’s needed to make OpenSolaris an option where it’s not today. [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » Linux vs OpenSolaris…Again: The Q&A http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-317861 tecosystems » Linux vs OpenSolaris…Again: The Q&A Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:13:54 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-317861 [...] The gist of the situation, as far as I’m concerned, is this: OpenSolaris, like a great many open source projects, has internal factions that do not always agree with each other. When discussing the hiring of Ian Murdock, I characterized this as a new school / old school problem. Views of the nature of the divide may differ, of course, but even a cursory review of the OpenSolaris lists will reveal deep differences of opinion concerning the OpenSolaris project, Sun’s relationship to it, and the role of the OpenSolaris distribution called Indiana. [...] [...] The gist of the situation, as far as I’m concerned, is this: OpenSolaris, like a great many open source projects, has internal factions that do not always agree with each other. When discussing the hiring of Ian Murdock, I characterized this as a new school / old school problem. Views of the nature of the divide may differ, of course, but even a cursory review of the OpenSolaris lists will reveal deep differences of opinion concerning the OpenSolaris project, Sun’s relationship to it, and the role of the OpenSolaris distribution called Indiana. [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » An OpenSolaris by Any Other Name: The Q&A http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-193494 tecosystems » An OpenSolaris by Any Other Name: The Q&A Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:34:33 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-193494 [...] Indiana? A: Fortunately, I’ve already done a Q&A on the subject, which you can find here. The short version, though, is that Indiana is a project intended to result in a binary [...] [...] Indiana? A: Fortunately, I’ve already done a Q&A on the subject, which you can find here. The short version, though, is that Indiana is a project intended to result in a binary [...]

]]> By: RNC http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-102922 RNC Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:06:39 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-102922 It does stand re-iteration. Anything built over Solaris is not going to be a simaculrum of Linux. Or BSD for that matter. The Solaris user level interface may be similar in both shell and GUI land but the administrative landscape is always going to differ in fundamental ways. e.g. OS startup via SMF. RBAC. Zones. Diskless boot. Jumpstart. Live Upgrade. The kernel itself. Device drivers. This stuff is not going to be ripped and replaced. It's too deep. Its what solaris is. And it's what gives the OS attraction to users. It is also a level where the unfamiliarity lies for Linux people. It does make me wonder just where Indiana 's value add will lie. Unfortunately, it is loosely defined to comprehend at this point. If I go from BSD to OSX to Solaris, they all have command line environments. But above the trivial level they are very different. It will be interesting if Indiana pulls in material from OSX and BSD as well as Linux. It does stand re-iteration. Anything built over Solaris is not going to be a simaculrum of Linux. Or BSD for that matter. The Solaris user level interface may be similar in both shell and GUI land but the administrative landscape is always going to differ in fundamental ways. e.g. OS startup via SMF. RBAC. Zones. Diskless boot. Jumpstart. Live Upgrade. The kernel itself. Device drivers. This stuff is not going to be ripped and replaced. It’s too deep. Its what solaris is. And it’s what gives the OS attraction to users. It is also a level where the unfamiliarity lies for Linux people.

It does make me wonder just where Indiana ’s value add will lie. Unfortunately, it is loosely defined to comprehend at this point.

If I go from BSD to OSX to Solaris, they all have command line environments. But above the trivial level they are very different.

It will be interesting if Indiana pulls in material from OSX and BSD as well as Linux.

]]> By: Colin Charles Agenda » Blog Archive » OpenSolaris: Even the download system puts you off http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-102596 Colin Charles Agenda » Blog Archive » OpenSolaris: Even the download system puts you off Sun, 10 Jun 2007 14:13:46 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/06/07/project-indiana-the-qa/#comment-102596 [...] Ubuntu’s download page. Redmonk’s Stephen O’Grady has his traditional Q&A on Project Indiana - a must [...] [...] Ubuntu’s download page. Redmonk’s Stephen O’Grady has his traditional Q&A on Project Indiana - a must [...]

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