Comments on: Correcting the Record on Dual Licensing http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/30/correcting_the_record/ because technology is just another ecosystem Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:32:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: tecosystems » Open Source Licensing: Obsolete or Of Importance? http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/30/correcting_the_record/#comment-338393 tecosystems » Open Source Licensing: Obsolete or Of Importance? Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:04:11 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/30/correcting_the_record/#comment-338393 [...] GPL, the rights granted by it to the users cannot be removed legally; with the notable exception of dual license scenarios which may act to remove the restrictions for the licensing entity. For all other [...] [...] GPL, the rights granted by it to the users cannot be removed legally; with the notable exception of dual license scenarios which may act to remove the restrictions for the licensing entity. For all other [...]

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]]> By: Eric Lai http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/30/correcting_the_record/#comment-73162 Eric Lai Tue, 01 May 2007 23:12:13 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/30/correcting_the_record/#comment-73162 Hi Stephen - I just saw this blog entry. I can only plead mea culpa for what is a mutual misunderstanding and some poor writing on my part, not a particular agenda on my part and certainly not to misquote you. My recollection was that I asked you whether it was "schizophrenic" for MySQL to accept bug fixes and also so strongly encourage partners to create storage engines, while going it alone on core database development. The point I was driving at and which I think you basically agreed with was that to a techie reader not particularly versed in the details of open-source licensing, it might appear contradictory for MySQL to encourage outsiders to help build the storage engines, which no other well-known DBMS encourages or allows, and yet be historically closed re: code for the core database. The paragraph that begins, "While MySQL has welcomed bug fixes..." was trying to explain that. Unfortunately, you're right, a subsequent sentence, which begins, "The problem, according to O'Grady..." does appear to make you criticize the dual-licensing model in general, which is not right. I've asked my editor to change it from "problem" to "issue". I consider RedMonk an excellent firm and both you and James to be very sharp, so I hope this doesn't preclude future conversations. Best, Eric P.S. personally, I have no objection to e-mail or IM intvus. Hi Stephen - I just saw this blog entry. I can only plead mea culpa for what is a mutual misunderstanding and some poor writing on my part, not a particular agenda on my part and certainly not to misquote you.
My recollection was that I asked you whether it was “schizophrenic” for MySQL to accept bug fixes and also so strongly encourage partners to create storage engines, while going it alone on core database development.
The point I was driving at and which I think you basically agreed with was that to a techie reader not particularly versed in the details of open-source licensing, it might appear contradictory for MySQL to encourage outsiders to help build the storage engines, which no other well-known DBMS encourages or allows, and yet be historically closed re: code for the core database.
The paragraph that begins, “While MySQL has welcomed bug fixes…” was trying to explain that.
Unfortunately, you’re right, a subsequent sentence, which begins, “The problem, according to O’Grady…” does appear to make you criticize the dual-licensing model in general, which is not right. I’ve asked my editor to change it from “problem” to “issue”.
I consider RedMonk an excellent firm and both you and James to be very sharp, so I hope this doesn’t preclude future conversations.
Best,
Eric
P.S. personally, I have no objection to e-mail or IM intvus.

]]> By: Donnie Berkholz http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/30/correcting_the_record/#comment-72917 Donnie Berkholz Tue, 01 May 2007 06:04:37 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/30/correcting_the_record/#comment-72917 Perhaps you'd like to try Dave Winer's policy. I ran into it on the PressThink blog at http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2007/05/01/when_fairness_r.html -- Rutenberg’s article made me wish I had followed, in this instance, blogger Dave Winer’s policy. When asked for a phone or e-mail interview, he usually declines. “If you have a few questions, send them along, and if I have something to say, I’ll write a blog post, which of course you’re free to quote,” he said last week. Responding to Winer, and to this event with Jason Calacanis and Wired magazine, Jeff Jarvis wrote: “The interview is outmoded and needs to be rethought.” Perhaps you’d like to try Dave Winer’s policy. I ran into it on the PressThink blog at http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2007/05/01/when_fairness_r.html –

Rutenberg’s article made me wish I had followed, in this instance, blogger Dave Winer’s policy. When asked for a phone or e-mail interview, he usually declines. “If you have a few questions, send them along, and if I have something to say, I’ll write a blog post, which of course you’re free to quote,” he said last week. Responding to Winer, and to this event with Jason Calacanis and Wired magazine, Jeff Jarvis wrote: “The interview is outmoded and needs to be rethought.”

]]> By: James Governor http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/30/correcting_the_record/#comment-72784 James Governor Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:10:59 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/30/correcting_the_record/#comment-72784 that sucks. good clarification. i am sure the team at MySQL and anyone in your community more broadly that saw the offending article were wondering WTF?! the thought of you describing dual license as schizophrenic is pretty funny. that sucks. good clarification. i am sure the team at MySQL and anyone in your community more broadly that saw the offending article were wondering WTF?! the thought of you describing dual license as schizophrenic is pretty funny.

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