Comments on: Apache’s Open Letter to Sun: Of Trees and Forests http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/ because technology is just another ecosystem Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:19:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tecosystems » Will the Real RedMonk Please Stand Up? http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-629007 tecosystems » Will the Real RedMonk Please Stand Up? Fri, 09 Jul 2010 21:32:17 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-629007 [...] we do. This is why we help the developers that we know get free gear. This is why we will argue on behalf of open source foundations, even against our own clients, if necessary. This is why we do podcasts and [...] [...] we do. This is why we help the developers that we know get free gear. This is why we will argue on behalf of open source foundations, even against our own clients, if necessary. This is why we do podcasts and [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » The Startup’s Guide to Working With RedMonk http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-574284 tecosystems » The Startup’s Guide to Working With RedMonk Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:52:35 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-574284 [...] We give back, by doing what we can by going to bat for various open source communities both publicly and behind the scenes, commissioning plugins like Progressive License and building out sites like [...] [...] We give back, by doing what we can by going to bat for various open source communities both publicly and behind the scenes, commissioning plugins like Progressive License and building out sites like [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » Linux vs OpenSolaris…Again: The Q&A http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-317859 tecosystems » Linux vs OpenSolaris…Again: The Q&A Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:11:16 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-317859 [...] Sun has been accused on multiple occasions in the past of refusing to let go. See, for example, the dispute with Apache on the field of use restrictions, the long running but recently resolved divide between IBM and Sun [...] [...] Sun has been accused on multiple occasions in the past of refusing to let go. See, for example, the dispute with Apache on the field of use restrictions, the long running but recently resolved divide between IBM and Sun [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » Discussing Patents: Two Approaches http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-95052 tecosystems » Discussing Patents: Two Approaches Wed, 30 May 2007 21:54:12 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-95052 [...] who have no love for Sun, and no, the company is not perfect in its open source conduct (e.g. my thoughts on the Apache flap, although as an aside the Apache and Sun folks were very cordial with one [...] [...] who have no love for Sun, and no, the company is not perfect in its open source conduct (e.g. my thoughts on the Apache flap, although as an aside the Apache and Sun folks were very cordial with one [...]

]]> By: Mads http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-64397 Mads Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:48:43 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-64397 Geir adds more explanations in this excellent feathercast: http://feathercast.org/?p=43 Geir adds more explanations in this excellent feathercast:
http://feathercast.org/?p=43

]]> By: Alessandro Rodrique http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-59721 Alessandro Rodrique Fri, 13 Apr 2007 04:23:59 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-59721 I don't understand Apache's issues - the code is GPL, they can ship a product without any obligations to call it Java, it is completely free and open. It seems like they are taking issue with the license Sun chose, and the fact that Apache is incompatible?? I don’t understand Apache’s issues – the code is GPL, they can ship a product without any obligations to call it Java, it is completely free and open. It seems like they are taking issue with the license Sun chose, and the fact that Apache is incompatible??

]]> By: Michael Dolan Dot Com » Apache and Sun Open Letter Debate http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-59016 Michael Dolan Dot Com » Apache and Sun Open Letter Debate Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:58:46 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-59016 [...] Stephen O’Grady has posted his take on the debate between Apache and Sun that recently went public with an Open Letter to Sun. Apache’s Geir Magnusson has also posted a public FAQ to explain further. Posted by md on April 11th, 2007 | Filed in Open Source, Open Standards, Sun | [...] [...] Stephen O’Grady has posted his take on the debate between Apache and Sun that recently went public with an Open Letter to Sun. Apache’s Geir Magnusson has also posted a public FAQ to explain further. Posted by md on April 11th, 2007 | Filed in Open Source, Open Standards, Sun | [...]

]]> By: sogrady http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-58574 sogrady Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:15:42 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-58574 Joshua: thx, appreciate the correction. you're right that i didn't intend anything negative by it, just that many of our customers like Covalent, IBM and so on employ developers to work on Apache projects. but you're correct, the distinction is important. apologies. Joshua: thx, appreciate the correction. you’re right that i didn’t intend anything negative by it, just that many of our customers like Covalent, IBM and so on employ developers to work on Apache projects. but you’re correct, the distinction is important. apologies.

]]> By: Ted Leung on the Air » Blog Archive » It’s all about the governance http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-58297 Ted Leung on the Air » Blog Archive » It’s all about the governance Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:15:43 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-58297 [...] After yesterday, I think my reasoning ought to be obvious. FAQ link for those new to the issues. Stefano and Ben, as always, find a satisfying way to put it, and Redmonk’s Steven O’Grady has a fair minded analysis. [...] [...] After yesterday, I think my reasoning ought to be obvious. FAQ link for those new to the issues. Stefano and Ben, as always, find a satisfying way to put it, and Redmonk’s Steven O’Grady has a fair minded analysis. [...]

]]> By: Joshua Slive http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/comment-page-1/#comment-57937 Joshua Slive Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:33:31 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/04/10/apache_open_letter/#comment-57937 By the way, Apache doesn't have any "member organization(s)". It has only individual members who are expected to act as individuals, regardless of who may be employing them. See: http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#corporate-membership (I am sure you didn't mean anything negative by that, but it is a common misconception that sometimes clouds people's judgment about Apache.) By the way, Apache doesn’t have any “member organization(s)”. It has only individual members who are expected to act as individuals, regardless of who may be employing them. See:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/faq.html#corporate-membership

(I am sure you didn’t mean anything negative by that, but it is a common misconception that sometimes clouds people’s judgment about Apache.)

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