Comments on: HP TSG Analyst Summit: The Sound of Silence http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/ because technology is just another ecosystem Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:38:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: tecosystems » 2007: The Year in Review, from Macro to Micro http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-267544 tecosystems » 2007: The Year in Review, from Macro to Micro Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:31:39 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-267544 [...] March: The month started off poorly, as we nearly lost a client due to spam issues and a resulting lack of responsiveness, and shortly thereafter bid a fond farewell to Anne who we all enjoyed working with. Getting over those rough events, I set out to automate our WordPress updating procedure using Subversion. Observing ongoing driver issues with Linux, I wondered whether or not Linux could or should play the Apple card. Having not done one in a while, it was time for a Denver Tech Meetup. Also long overdue was the relaunch of redmonk.com, which was made possible by Alex and Crowd Favorite. With that accomplished, I felt justified in my St Patrick’s Day revelry. Thinking initially that I’d had too much to drink on that holiday, I read that Ian Murdock was joining Sun. Seizing a weather and family window, a friend and I officially opened the fishing season. To make my telephony life simpler, I switched on Grand Central. On a more alarming note, our extended family groped with a serious crisis. The good news was that offers of assistance poured in, and that it ended about as well as it could have. All of that went down while I was at HP’s annual analyst conference in Boston. [...] [...] March: The month started off poorly, as we nearly lost a client due to spam issues and a resulting lack of responsiveness, and shortly thereafter bid a fond farewell to Anne who we all enjoyed working with. Getting over those rough events, I set out to automate our WordPress updating procedure using Subversion. Observing ongoing driver issues with Linux, I wondered whether or not Linux could or should play the Apple card. Having not done one in a while, it was time for a Denver Tech Meetup. Also long overdue was the relaunch of redmonk.com, which was made possible by Alex and Crowd Favorite. With that accomplished, I felt justified in my St Patrick’s Day revelry. Thinking initially that I’d had too much to drink on that holiday, I read that Ian Murdock was joining Sun. Seizing a weather and family window, a friend and I officially opened the fishing season. To make my telephony life simpler, I switched on Grand Central. On a more alarming note, our extended family groped with a serious crisis. The good news was that offers of assistance poured in, and that it ended about as well as it could have. All of that went down while I was at HP’s annual analyst conference in Boston. [...]

]]> By: tecosystems » Burning The Influence Straw Man http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-198149 tecosystems » Burning The Influence Straw Man Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:44:26 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-198149 [...] of market forces, including open source and software as a service - a belief that HP does not appear to share. We do not argue that top down acquisition and purchasing is not of great relevance from a [...] [...] of market forces, including open source and software as a service - a belief that HP does not appear to share. We do not argue that top down acquisition and purchasing is not of great relevance from a [...]

]]> By: People Over Process » HP Acquisition Day: Opsware and Neoware - And the Larger Issue of HP IT Management Offerings http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-130758 People Over Process » HP Acquisition Day: Opsware and Neoware - And the Larger Issue of HP IT Management Offerings Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:40:23 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-130758 [...] HP’s feelings about open source in IT management are out in the open yet. Several months ago, at an HP event, Steve said: Nowhere, interestingly, as one of the Forrester analysts and I discussed earlier today, did they [...] [...] HP’s feelings about open source in IT management are out in the open yet. Several months ago, at an HP event, Steve said: Nowhere, interestingly, as one of the Forrester analysts and I discussed earlier today, did they [...]

]]> By: sogrady http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-50086 sogrady Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:17:52 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-50086 Christopher: not i, certainly. and i'm not against HP tailoring their messages. but if i worked there, and i was the sole large vendor not making more noise around open source, i'd be worried. james: i think we know a few of those ;) Christopher: not i, certainly. and i’m not against HP tailoring their messages. but if i worked there, and i was the sole large vendor not making more noise around open source, i’d be worried.

james: i think we know a few of those ;)

]]> By: james governor http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-47118 james governor Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:27:03 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-47118 i like the innovator/maintainer distinction chris, but there are other types too. some CIOs are definitely not maintainers- they like to initiate major change projects, with big budgets and so on. but neither really are they innovators, per se. you might call them radical conservatives. they want big change - to compare with their peers. i like the innovator/maintainer distinction chris, but there are other types too. some CIOs are definitely not maintainers- they like to initiate major change projects, with big budgets and so on. but neither really are they innovators, per se. you might call them radical conservatives. they want big change - to compare with their peers.

]]> By: Christopher Mahan http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-45581 Christopher Mahan Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:12:00 +0000 http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/03/28/hp-tsg-analyst-summit-the-sound-of-silence/#comment-45581 Stephen, Interesting. I suppose this could all be because there is more than one kind of CIO. I think they can be broadly brushed into two camps: The Innovators, and the Maintainers. From inside looking out, I think that for every five Maintainers, there might be one Innovator. Here's what I think: The Typical Maintainer CIO is scared witless of FLOSS, and can't possibly be expected to remain rational and in his/her comfort zone when Debian GNU/Linux and PostgreSQL are even mentioned. And uncomfortable Maintainer CIOs, unfortunately, seem to have a tendency to think their time so valuable that they will not stick around. Innovator CIOs don't need to be told any of this. They already have Thumpers on orders and expect to run Solaris 10 with PostgreSQL on them. But HP, wisely I think, knows its offerings are more geared toward the Maintainer crowd, and as they are more numerous, prefers that market anyway. So any mention of Open Source, Free Software, and Community Development and Support needs to be expunged from any presentation to or communication with these Maintainer CIOs. Or maybe I'm wrong. Who knows? Stephen,

Interesting.

I suppose this could all be because there is more than one kind of CIO.

I think they can be broadly brushed into two camps: The Innovators, and the Maintainers. From inside looking out, I think that for every five Maintainers, there might be one Innovator.

Here’s what I think: The Typical Maintainer CIO is scared witless of FLOSS, and can’t possibly be expected to remain rational and in his/her comfort zone when Debian GNU/Linux and PostgreSQL are even mentioned. And uncomfortable Maintainer CIOs, unfortunately, seem to have a tendency to think their time so valuable that they will not stick around.

Innovator CIOs don’t need to be told any of this. They already have Thumpers on orders and expect to run Solaris 10 with PostgreSQL on them.

But HP, wisely I think, knows its offerings are more geared toward the Maintainer crowd, and as they are more numerous, prefers that market anyway. So any mention of Open Source, Free Software, and Community Development and Support needs to be expunged from any presentation to or communication with these Maintainer CIOs.

Or maybe I’m wrong. Who knows?

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