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	<title>Comments on: Sun Analyst Event: Starting Up with Startups</title>
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		<title>By: sogrady</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/02/08/sun-analyst-event-starting-up-with-startups/comment-page-1/#comment-16557</link>
		<dc:creator>sogrady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donnie: as if there was some question whether or not i was dorky ;)

Dan: definitely agree on the convenience front, though i think in Sun&#039;s case it&#039;s a bit of both. if all you were selling, as an example, were expensive UltraSparc machines, it wouldn&#039;t matter that you had a phenomenal experience because that would be a non-starter for a lot of the folks in the markets we&#039;re talking about. 

as to serving SMBs, not that i can think of, unless we throw in oranges like Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donnie: as if there was some question whether or not i was dorky <img src='http://redmonk.com/sogrady/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dan: definitely agree on the convenience front, though i think in Sun&#8217;s case it&#8217;s a bit of both. if all you were selling, as an example, were expensive UltraSparc machines, it wouldn&#8217;t matter that you had a phenomenal experience because that would be a non-starter for a lot of the folks in the markets we&#8217;re talking about. </p>
<p>as to serving SMBs, not that i can think of, unless we throw in oranges like Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Davies Brackett</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/02/08/sun-analyst-event-starting-up-with-startups/comment-page-1/#comment-16490</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Davies Brackett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoting yourself is only dorky if it&#039;s not done as a convenience measure so people don&#039;t have to click a link and disrupt the flow of the article to read what you want them to.

I largely agree with you about the depth of Sun&#039;s issues with servicing small customers well, with one exception:  I think that it&#039;s actually more important to have a phenomenally good purchasing &amp; support experience than it is to have absolutely top-of-the-line products.  Take Dell, for example:  they lost the SMB market lead when they decided to cut costs in their core competency -- lightning-fast purchase and good support response.  There were better-performing machines out there, but top-of-the-line price-performance isn&#039;t actually the deciding factor for the SMB market.  That honor goes to the total time the IT guy has to spend thinking about the actual box, including the time it takes to purchase it.

Sun&#039;s going to have to change a lot to become the vendor of choice for startups, and like you said it&#039;s going to be very difficult to do that without disturbing their existing customer base.  In fact, are there any companies out there besides Microsoft that service SMBs and large enterprises well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting yourself is only dorky if it&#8217;s not done as a convenience measure so people don&#8217;t have to click a link and disrupt the flow of the article to read what you want them to.</p>
<p>I largely agree with you about the depth of Sun&#8217;s issues with servicing small customers well, with one exception:  I think that it&#8217;s actually more important to have a phenomenally good purchasing &amp; support experience than it is to have absolutely top-of-the-line products.  Take Dell, for example:  they lost the SMB market lead when they decided to cut costs in their core competency &#8212; lightning-fast purchase and good support response.  There were better-performing machines out there, but top-of-the-line price-performance isn&#8217;t actually the deciding factor for the SMB market.  That honor goes to the total time the IT guy has to spend thinking about the actual box, including the time it takes to purchase it.</p>
<p>Sun&#8217;s going to have to change a lot to become the vendor of choice for startups, and like you said it&#8217;s going to be very difficult to do that without disturbing their existing customer base.  In fact, are there any companies out there besides Microsoft that service SMBs and large enterprises well?</p>
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		<title>By: Donnie Berkholz</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/02/08/sun-analyst-event-starting-up-with-startups/comment-page-1/#comment-16424</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnie Berkholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t quote yourself, that&#039;s so dorky. =P</description>
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