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	<title>Comments on: No, I&#8217;m (Probably) Not Getting an iPhone</title>
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	<description>because technology is just another ecosystem</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; Friday Grab Bag: Pedro, Mozilla, iPhone, and More</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/01/09/no-im-probably-not-getting-an-iphone/#comment-331796</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; Friday Grab Bag: Pedro, Mozilla, iPhone, and More</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] come up, and I sheepishly admitted to being happy with the device in spite of my one time intention not to own one. What&#8217;s been particularly interesting to me have been the reactions to the SDK for the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] come up, and I sheepishly admitted to being happy with the device in spite of my one time intention not to own one. What&#8217;s been particularly interesting to me have been the reactions to the SDK for the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; 2007: The Year in Review, from Macro to Micro</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/01/09/no-im-probably-not-getting-an-iphone/#comment-268207</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; 2007: The Year in Review, from Macro to Micro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for the blog, and I briefly contemplated selling my loft. Prior to the launch, I asserted that I wasn&#8217;t getting an iPhone. My inaugural award for technical innovation went to Amazon for its EC2/S3 efforts; an award that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for the blog, and I briefly contemplated selling my loft. Prior to the launch, I asserted that I wasn&#8217;t getting an iPhone. My inaugural award for technical innovation went to Amazon for its EC2/S3 efforts; an award that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; Three Days With an iPhone</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/01/09/no-im-probably-not-getting-an-iphone/#comment-262203</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; Three Days With an iPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3G Question: Or more properly, the lack thereof. Everyone and me has bemoaned Apple&#8217;s decision to forgo 3G connectivity, relying on the much slower EDGE [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 3G Question: Or more properly, the lack thereof. Everyone and me has bemoaned Apple&#8217;s decision to forgo 3G connectivity, relying on the much slower EDGE [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; Merry Christmas from Evil Santa</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/01/09/no-im-probably-not-getting-an-iphone/#comment-259531</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; Merry Christmas from Evil Santa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m not a liar. I said I wouldn&#8217;t buy an iPhone, but I never said anything about what would happen if I were given [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m not a liar. I said I wouldn&#8217;t buy an iPhone, but I never said anything about what would happen if I were given [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sogrady</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/01/09/no-im-probably-not-getting-an-iphone/#comment-10863</link>
		<dc:creator>sogrady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geof: you're not the only one, from the looks of it. 

David: at $500, i don't think anyone will be trying that soon ;)

Ric: a bit, but sentiment seems to be swinging back the other way since Jobs announced that it would be a closed platform. they're still going to sell a ton of them, but a surprising number of Apple fans i've talked to won't get be getting one. 

Brandon: well, i do give Apple the benefit of the doubt, but i'm with some of the other commenters who don't think you'll be able to type as well with it as, say, a blackberry. 

Mike: good points all around, but i still think there are use case differences w/ the devices that preclude easy conflation of the devices. and even combining funds is problematic for some, as they'll spend some money on an iPod but very little on a phone and so on. and, as Justin points out it's not really an adequate audio device for someone like me right now. 

Justin: amen. and even more interesting is the recent announcement that a two year contract w/ Cingular is not optional, but a requirement. great point about Exchange as well. 

Luis: well, i don't know that i'd put those constraints on it being successful, because i think it'll sell very well, but i do believe that you're correct that in its current incarnation it's limiting itself. 

matt m: similar reservations here. but it is Apple, so i'll give them the benefit of the doubt. 

Savio: i'm actually most of a pragmatist when it comes to devices. while i choose to use open source on my desktop, for example, i have no problem with the volume of open source folks that choose to use MacBooks and the like. so feel free to buy what's shiny ;)

Nigel: no worries - glad you got something out of this. 

Luis: the short answer is no, i have no hard numbers. but i wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are even higher than that in favor of MP3 players. consider that when walking during commuting hours in a lot of cities - Boston, for example - nearly everyone has an MP3 player of some sort that they're listening to. 

while on the other hand, i only know a couple of folks that carry PDAs. i don't really factor in the phone PDAs that Savio mentions b/c most of the folks that i know who have those devices don't use them as PDAs - merely email devices, nothing more. 

Dennis: yeah, AKA a no-selling-waste-of-space ;)

Jeff: i'll be very interested in seeing what they sell it at come Christmas. price will be a big factor in how well these things sell, methinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geof: you&#8217;re not the only one, from the looks of it. </p>
<p>David: at $500, i don&#8217;t think anyone will be trying that soon <img src='http://redmonk.com/sogrady/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ric: a bit, but sentiment seems to be swinging back the other way since Jobs announced that it would be a closed platform. they&#8217;re still going to sell a ton of them, but a surprising number of Apple fans i&#8217;ve talked to won&#8217;t get be getting one. </p>
<p>Brandon: well, i do give Apple the benefit of the doubt, but i&#8217;m with some of the other commenters who don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ll be able to type as well with it as, say, a blackberry. </p>
<p>Mike: good points all around, but i still think there are use case differences w/ the devices that preclude easy conflation of the devices. and even combining funds is problematic for some, as they&#8217;ll spend some money on an iPod but very little on a phone and so on. and, as Justin points out it&#8217;s not really an adequate audio device for someone like me right now. </p>
<p>Justin: amen. and even more interesting is the recent announcement that a two year contract w/ Cingular is not optional, but a requirement. great point about Exchange as well. </p>
<p>Luis: well, i don&#8217;t know that i&#8217;d put those constraints on it being successful, because i think it&#8217;ll sell very well, but i do believe that you&#8217;re correct that in its current incarnation it&#8217;s limiting itself. </p>
<p>matt m: similar reservations here. but it is Apple, so i&#8217;ll give them the benefit of the doubt. </p>
<p>Savio: i&#8217;m actually most of a pragmatist when it comes to devices. while i choose to use open source on my desktop, for example, i have no problem with the volume of open source folks that choose to use MacBooks and the like. so feel free to buy what&#8217;s shiny <img src='http://redmonk.com/sogrady/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nigel: no worries - glad you got something out of this. </p>
<p>Luis: the short answer is no, i have no hard numbers. but i wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the numbers are even higher than that in favor of MP3 players. consider that when walking during commuting hours in a lot of cities - Boston, for example - nearly everyone has an MP3 player of some sort that they&#8217;re listening to. </p>
<p>while on the other hand, i only know a couple of folks that carry PDAs. i don&#8217;t really factor in the phone PDAs that Savio mentions b/c most of the folks that i know who have those devices don&#8217;t use them as PDAs - merely email devices, nothing more. </p>
<p>Dennis: yeah, AKA a no-selling-waste-of-space <img src='http://redmonk.com/sogrady/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jeff: i&#8217;ll be very interested in seeing what they sell it at come Christmas. price will be a big factor in how well these things sell, methinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Haynie</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/01/09/no-im-probably-not-getting-an-iphone/#comment-10829</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Haynie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 02:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the phone will start off a little high like other luxury items and then they will drop it - probably by Christmas to really drive demand and make it look like a big deal.  I'm sure Cingular is going to be subsidizing a good bit of the price tag anyway.

Probably the most disappointing news (yet understandable for Apple) is that they've picked Cingular. 

Oh, and I hate Blackberry's keyboard.  I've tried to use it now for about a year and a half and I just finally gave it up. I now only read email on my phone and rarely ever respond (forgot even trying to write).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the phone will start off a little high like other luxury items and then they will drop it - probably by Christmas to really drive demand and make it look like a big deal.  I&#8217;m sure Cingular is going to be subsidizing a good bit of the price tag anyway.</p>
<p>Probably the most disappointing news (yet understandable for Apple) is that they&#8217;ve picked Cingular. </p>
<p>Oh, and I hate Blackberry&#8217;s keyboard.  I&#8217;ve tried to use it now for about a year and a half and I just finally gave it up. I now only read email on my phone and rarely ever respond (forgot even trying to write).</p>
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		<title>By: Savio Rodrigues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savio Rodrigues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Luis, here's a comment from Steve Jobs during his keynote: &lt;i&gt;"26m game consoles sold, 94m digital cameras, 135m MP3 players, 209m PCs, 957m phones..." (Source: &lt;a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-from-macworld-2007-steve-jobs-keynote/"&gt;Engadget&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/i&gt;

So, even if 1% of 957m mobile phones are 'smart phones', that's still a healthy number compared to MP3 players.  I know your question was about PDAs but who really has a PDA that isn’t inside of the phone these days :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Luis, here&#8217;s a comment from Steve Jobs during his keynote: <i>&#8220;26m game consoles sold, 94m digital cameras, 135m MP3 players, 209m PCs, 957m phones&#8230;&#8221; (Source: <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/live-from-macworld-2007-steve-jobs-keynote/">Engadget</a>)</i></p>
<p>So, even if 1% of 957m mobile phones are &#8217;smart phones&#8217;, that&#8217;s still a healthy number compared to MP3 players.  I know your question was about PDAs but who really has a PDA that isn’t inside of the phone these days <img src='http://redmonk.com/sogrady/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Howlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Howlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROKR? That was STNKR wasn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROKR? That was STNKR wasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Villa</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2007/01/09/no-im-probably-not-getting-an-iphone/#comment-10739</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Villa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, sog: do you have any numbers on the relative size of the PDA and mp3 player market? My sense is that the mp3 player market is 5-10x as large, but that's just a random guess that may be skewed by currently being a student.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, sog: do you have any numbers on the relative size of the PDA and mp3 player market? My sense is that the mp3 player market is 5-10x as large, but that&#8217;s just a random guess that may be skewed by currently being a student.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with matt m. I love my blackberry's qwerty keyboard. I don't own an iPod and to be honest am not rushing to get this phone or pod.

Thanks for the balance Stephen.

Nigel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with matt m. I love my blackberry&#8217;s qwerty keyboard. I don&#8217;t own an iPod and to be honest am not rushing to get this phone or pod.</p>
<p>Thanks for the balance Stephen.</p>
<p>Nigel</p>
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