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	<title>Comments on: Everyone&#8217;s Wants a Piece of the New Guy: The Startup Q&amp;A</title>
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	<description>because technology is just another ecosystem</description>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; Should Sun Mind - or Outsource - the Store?</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/12/15/startup_qa/comment-page-1/#comment-12423</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; Should Sun Mind - or Outsource - the Store?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The simple part is something I&#8217;ve written about before, and talked to Sun about, actually. Here&#8217;s what I said last month: Know how to separate the wheat from the chaff: Chaff being, in this case, very small startups with minimal purchase requirements. RedMonk, as an example, qualifies as chaff: I signed up for Sun’s Startup Essentials (we just made the cut, as I applied a month before we turned four) so that I could purchase a box or two at a discounted rate if I need them. No more than that. Having a salesperson call me for that is a waste of everyone’s time. Courting the Joyent guys, on the other hand, is probably a good idea seeing as they (want to) buy a lot more hardware than we do. The point is that all startups aren’t created equal, and you shouldn’t treat them that way. Court them all, but differentiate wherever possible. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The simple part is something I&#8217;ve written about before, and talked to Sun about, actually. Here&#8217;s what I said last month: Know how to separate the wheat from the chaff: Chaff being, in this case, very small startups with minimal purchase requirements. RedMonk, as an example, qualifies as chaff: I signed up for Sun’s Startup Essentials (we just made the cut, as I applied a month before we turned four) so that I could purchase a box or two at a discounted rate if I need them. No more than that. Having a salesperson call me for that is a waste of everyone’s time. Courting the Joyent guys, on the other hand, is probably a good idea seeing as they (want to) buy a lot more hardware than we do. The point is that all startups aren’t created equal, and you shouldn’t treat them that way. Court them all, but differentiate wherever possible. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tecosystems &#187; Starting Up in Boulder</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/12/15/startup_qa/comment-page-1/#comment-11004</link>
		<dc:creator>tecosystems &#187; Starting Up in Boulder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A month ago today I spent a fair amount of time discussing the business of selling to startups, so it was with interest that I read today&#8217;s TechStars news. You can get the news first hand via Alex, Brad or David&#8217;s blogs, but essentially the program is this: would-be startups apply, and 20-30 winners are rewarded with $15K in seed money, educational panels and the like, networking opportunities galore, and finally an opportunity to pitch their idea to VC&#8217;s. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A month ago today I spent a fair amount of time discussing the business of selling to startups, so it was with interest that I read today&#8217;s TechStars news. You can get the news first hand via Alex, Brad or David&#8217;s blogs, but essentially the program is this: would-be startups apply, and 20-30 winners are rewarded with $15K in seed money, educational panels and the like, networking opportunities galore, and finally an opportunity to pitch their idea to VC&#8217;s. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dolan Dot Com: Linux, Law, Open Source &#187; OraFAQ.com runs on MySQL??</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/12/15/startup_qa/comment-page-1/#comment-4411</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Dolan Dot Com: Linux, Law, Open Source &#187; OraFAQ.com runs on MySQL??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Interesting factoid I picked up here.. which pointed me here and which pointed to the proof point here. (didn&#8217;t even take 6 degrees of separation) Apparently the Oracle FAQ site orafaq.com actually runs on MySQL - not Oracle. That seemed very odd at first, but then it makes sense in the context of the cost of an Oracle commercial license. I&#8217;m surprised Oracle has not given them a license &#8220;at a large discount&#8221;&#8230;    &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Interesting factoid I picked up here.. which pointed me here and which pointed to the proof point here. (didn&#8217;t even take 6 degrees of separation) Apparently the Oracle FAQ site orafaq.com actually runs on MySQL &#8211; not Oracle. That seemed very odd at first, but then it makes sense in the context of the cost of an Oracle commercial license. I&#8217;m surprised Oracle has not given them a license &#8220;at a large discount&#8221;&#8230;    &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sogrady</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/12/15/startup_qa/comment-page-1/#comment-4361</link>
		<dc:creator>sogrady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danno: on the LAMP front, it usually still is those parts in varying combinations. the point is not that LAMP is the only stack i see, but it is the most dominant. there are a variety of choices on each tier, and different startups make different choices based on their needs, resources, and so on. but the numbers are fairly clear that the individual components of LAMP are still the most popular in their respective categories. 

Francis: don&#039;t mean to be fixated, as i spend a lot of time looking at non-LAMP technologies like Postgres, Ruby, (Open)Solaris and so on. there are a great many important technologies besides the LAMP stack - Windows certainly being one of them. 

but as discussed above, LAMP is still the most common combination that i see within the startup ecosystem. that&#039;s in speaking with them directly, learning more about them at conferences, or speaking with the VC&#039;s that fund them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danno: on the LAMP front, it usually still is those parts in varying combinations. the point is not that LAMP is the only stack i see, but it is the most dominant. there are a variety of choices on each tier, and different startups make different choices based on their needs, resources, and so on. but the numbers are fairly clear that the individual components of LAMP are still the most popular in their respective categories. </p>
<p>Francis: don&#8217;t mean to be fixated, as i spend a lot of time looking at non-LAMP technologies like Postgres, Ruby, (Open)Solaris and so on. there are a great many important technologies besides the LAMP stack &#8211; Windows certainly being one of them. </p>
<p>but as discussed above, LAMP is still the most common combination that i see within the startup ecosystem. that&#8217;s in speaking with them directly, learning more about them at conferences, or speaking with the VC&#8217;s that fund them.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Patrone</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/12/15/startup_qa/comment-page-1/#comment-4346</link>
		<dc:creator>Francis Patrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re fixated on LAMP - that seems like a radical oversimplification. I see a ton of Windows, and the &quot;L&quot; in LAMP leaving Fedora behind, and even some folks (Joyent&#039;s a good example) picking up Solaris. Postgres is picking up, Cloudscape too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re fixated on LAMP &#8211; that seems like a radical oversimplification. I see a ton of Windows, and the &#8220;L&#8221; in LAMP leaving Fedora behind, and even some folks (Joyent&#8217;s a good example) picking up Solaris. Postgres is picking up, Cloudscape too.</p>
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		<title>By: Danno</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/12/15/startup_qa/comment-page-1/#comment-4335</link>
		<dc:creator>Danno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the value proposition for a startup might show up after they&#039;ve been operational for 6 to 12 months and they&#039;ve got their software model getting locked in place and are beginning to get their cash flow to work better (well, assuming we&#039;re talking about net positive cash flow operations that I think are the way to avoid bubbling and not giganto-YouTube type deals), at which point in order to sustain growth, infrastructure scaling gains more thought-time in terms of technical problems.

LAMP though... I know the LAMP stack, explicitly LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/PHP/Python) was dominant a two years, even a year ago, but isn&#039;t it becoming more like, O/LWDL (Open Source/ Linux, Web Server, Database, Programming Language)?  I don&#039;t see too many people talking about Apache or MySQL exclusively in their articles (I could just be reading the wrong ones), and I know PHP is still the bigguns in terms of Languages people are using, but I&#039;m starting to think it&#039;ll only be a few months or maybe a year before somebody lights the world on fire with an app built on Haskell or OCaml or something like that.

Ehh.. whatever, pardon my insane 3am ramblings.  Man, O/LWDL is a *terrible* acronym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the value proposition for a startup might show up after they&#8217;ve been operational for 6 to 12 months and they&#8217;ve got their software model getting locked in place and are beginning to get their cash flow to work better (well, assuming we&#8217;re talking about net positive cash flow operations that I think are the way to avoid bubbling and not giganto-YouTube type deals), at which point in order to sustain growth, infrastructure scaling gains more thought-time in terms of technical problems.</p>
<p>LAMP though&#8230; I know the LAMP stack, explicitly LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/PHP/Python) was dominant a two years, even a year ago, but isn&#8217;t it becoming more like, O/LWDL (Open Source/ Linux, Web Server, Database, Programming Language)?  I don&#8217;t see too many people talking about Apache or MySQL exclusively in their articles (I could just be reading the wrong ones), and I know PHP is still the bigguns in terms of Languages people are using, but I&#8217;m starting to think it&#8217;ll only be a few months or maybe a year before somebody lights the world on fire with an app built on Haskell or OCaml or something like that.</p>
<p>Ehh.. whatever, pardon my insane 3am ramblings.  Man, O/LWDL is a *terrible* acronym.</p>
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