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		<title>By: Zebo</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/11/14/i-loathe-united/#comment-487451</link>
		<dc:creator>Zebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you. Just be thankful you didn't lose any of your personal items. I was delayed for a connecting flight out of Chicago, causing me to have to stay overnight. In the mean while, United took it upon themselves to rifle through my bag, which I could not get back for some unclear reason during my overnight stay. When they "reassembled" the bag, they left caps loose on some of my items, causing the contents to spill out all over onto various items. Additionally, they failed to put my camera, a very expensive photo cube, and various small items back into the bag, along with one of my shoes. 

I will never fly with the airlines as a result again. 

Every time I have had the misfortune of dealing with them, something gets lost, stolen or my flights are nearly always delayed. Customer service is poor and the company's attitude toward their operation is unprofessional.

I have filed my claim with the Better Business Bureau. They can take their air miles and free flights and put them straight up a very uncomfortable place as far as I am concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear you. Just be thankful you didn&#8217;t lose any of your personal items. I was delayed for a connecting flight out of Chicago, causing me to have to stay overnight. In the mean while, United took it upon themselves to rifle through my bag, which I could not get back for some unclear reason during my overnight stay. When they &#8220;reassembled&#8221; the bag, they left caps loose on some of my items, causing the contents to spill out all over onto various items. Additionally, they failed to put my camera, a very expensive photo cube, and various small items back into the bag, along with one of my shoes. </p>
<p>I will never fly with the airlines as a result again. </p>
<p>Every time I have had the misfortune of dealing with them, something gets lost, stolen or my flights are nearly always delayed. Customer service is poor and the company&#8217;s attitude toward their operation is unprofessional.</p>
<p>I have filed my claim with the Better Business Bureau. They can take their air miles and free flights and put them straight up a very uncomfortable place as far as I am concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: cmcool@gmail.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmcool@gmail.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>United is definitely no passenger friendly.  For all of those long tall guys, do not waste your money or rewards on first class.  They have shortened the distance between seats.  Now the extra room seats are in fact the seats with the most room.  They also make using your rewards a contest of wills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>United is definitely no passenger friendly.  For all of those long tall guys, do not waste your money or rewards on first class.  They have shortened the distance between seats.  Now the extra room seats are in fact the seats with the most room.  They also make using your rewards a contest of wills.</p>
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		<title>By: TA Dole</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/11/14/i-loathe-united/#comment-258577</link>
		<dc:creator>TA Dole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 06:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting to note that United Airlines has dropped the slogan, "Fly the Friendly Skies of United." Either United knows that they cannot keep this promise (of "friendly skies") or they simply do not care. I believe it is the latter.

Throughout the 80's and early part of the 90's, I was spending a lot of time on planes flying for work. While it was difficult spending time away from my three pre-school children and my wife, it was some consolation to know that at least I was racking up frequent flyer miles. United had built my loyalty with the promise that if I flew with them I would some day be able to treat my family to a nice vacation after years on the road.

I did my part. I flew almost exclusively on United Airlines. This was before the days of "expiring miles." Later, my miles were broken out separately on my statement as "non-expiring" miles.

Now my kids are in their teens, and I wanted to take them on the trip I had EARNED by trusting United Airlines (i.e., that if I did my part by spending thousands of dollars with them they would provide the trips promised me). You must be able to imagine my surprise when I called to find out my balance. Instead of the 165,000+ miles, I was told that I only had 5,000 miles in my account. I was stunned and assumed that there must be a mistake. I was later to find that the mistake was in ever trusting United Airlines.

United made the decision that they would, in fact, expire the "non-expiring" miles. Since I hadn't traveled over the past few years they would wipe away all of these miles. I do want to point out that American, Delta, and Alaska airlines had similar classifications of miles, i.e., those that expired and those that didn't. I had much lower balances on these other airlines, since I had used United for most of my travels. This is important to bring up because (unlike United) American, Delta, and Alaska air kept my "non-expiring" miles intact.

I made frequent calls to both Mileage Plus and United. Each pointed the finger at each other. The response that I got was consistent. They needed me to fly with them over the past few years and since I didn't they didn't consider me to be a loyal customer. I pointed out that I wasn't flying with anyone during that period. Apparently, they expected me to rush out and buy a ticket that I didn't need just to keep their airline afloat.

United has made it very clear that they do not intent to live up to their promise of giving me ticket rewards for my loyalty in the 80's and 90's. I feel as though my bank account was wiped out by a criminal. The bank account was my mileage account, and you know who the criminals are.

Read the complaints of others, regarding United Airlines. Don't let this happen to you. Make a conscious choice not to end up like me. I urge you to trust your flying dollars to airlines with integrity, such as American, Delta, and Alaskan Airlines.

You will undoubtedly see many complaints that United Mileage Plus members find it impossible to use their miles (i.e., planes don't have seats available for rewards travel). I find it interesting that I had little trouble getting reward travel on American Airlines to and from Miami for a cruise that I have planned. United believes airline travel is a commodity. I disagree, and I appreciate the service provided by other customer-focused airlines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to note that United Airlines has dropped the slogan, &#8220;Fly the Friendly Skies of United.&#8221; Either United knows that they cannot keep this promise (of &#8220;friendly skies&#8221;) or they simply do not care. I believe it is the latter.</p>
<p>Throughout the 80&#8217;s and early part of the 90&#8217;s, I was spending a lot of time on planes flying for work. While it was difficult spending time away from my three pre-school children and my wife, it was some consolation to know that at least I was racking up frequent flyer miles. United had built my loyalty with the promise that if I flew with them I would some day be able to treat my family to a nice vacation after years on the road.</p>
<p>I did my part. I flew almost exclusively on United Airlines. This was before the days of &#8220;expiring miles.&#8221; Later, my miles were broken out separately on my statement as &#8220;non-expiring&#8221; miles.</p>
<p>Now my kids are in their teens, and I wanted to take them on the trip I had EARNED by trusting United Airlines (i.e., that if I did my part by spending thousands of dollars with them they would provide the trips promised me). You must be able to imagine my surprise when I called to find out my balance. Instead of the 165,000+ miles, I was told that I only had 5,000 miles in my account. I was stunned and assumed that there must be a mistake. I was later to find that the mistake was in ever trusting United Airlines.</p>
<p>United made the decision that they would, in fact, expire the &#8220;non-expiring&#8221; miles. Since I hadn&#8217;t traveled over the past few years they would wipe away all of these miles. I do want to point out that American, Delta, and Alaska airlines had similar classifications of miles, i.e., those that expired and those that didn&#8217;t. I had much lower balances on these other airlines, since I had used United for most of my travels. This is important to bring up because (unlike United) American, Delta, and Alaska air kept my &#8220;non-expiring&#8221; miles intact.</p>
<p>I made frequent calls to both Mileage Plus and United. Each pointed the finger at each other. The response that I got was consistent. They needed me to fly with them over the past few years and since I didn&#8217;t they didn&#8217;t consider me to be a loyal customer. I pointed out that I wasn&#8217;t flying with anyone during that period. Apparently, they expected me to rush out and buy a ticket that I didn&#8217;t need just to keep their airline afloat.</p>
<p>United has made it very clear that they do not intent to live up to their promise of giving me ticket rewards for my loyalty in the 80&#8217;s and 90&#8217;s. I feel as though my bank account was wiped out by a criminal. The bank account was my mileage account, and you know who the criminals are.</p>
<p>Read the complaints of others, regarding United Airlines. Don&#8217;t let this happen to you. Make a conscious choice not to end up like me. I urge you to trust your flying dollars to airlines with integrity, such as American, Delta, and Alaskan Airlines.</p>
<p>You will undoubtedly see many complaints that United Mileage Plus members find it impossible to use their miles (i.e., planes don&#8217;t have seats available for rewards travel). I find it interesting that I had little trouble getting reward travel on American Airlines to and from Miami for a cruise that I have planned. United believes airline travel is a commodity. I disagree, and I appreciate the service provided by other customer-focused airlines.</p>
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		<title>By: ItsMe</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/11/14/i-loathe-united/#comment-247121</link>
		<dc:creator>ItsMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used a frequent flier ticket to come to Los Angeles. While here, I needed oral surgery to remove a tumor. 

As a result, I was not able to fly on my scheduled departure date.

I looked up seat availabilty online, and flights that would get me back to the Newark, NJ airport prior to Christmas Eve were showing available seats. When I attmpted to switch my flight, I was told by agents, supervisors and Customer Relations that those seats were ONLY available for purchase. 

Since I have been stupid enough to be loyal to United, I had an additional 50,000 miles available and offered these miles in exchange for a seat on one of these flights. I was told by a United airlines Manager at LAX that this was not feasible, as the way the airline makes money is by selling seats, and the only seats they had available were for purchase at a fee of $1,000 or more. The soonest they could let me use the remaining portion of my frequent flyer ticket was on the red-eye Christmas Eve into Christmas day.

They could clearly see at the ticketing counter that I had just had surgery, as I still have a black eye, stitches and a plate in my mouth. What they offered was a "special fare medical emergency ticket." 

What's even more insulting... they said that I could fly Orange County to Laguardia, if I paid a $100 change fee. ARE THEY SERIOUS??????

Did I mention that I spent a total of 10 hours yesterday and today trying to resolve this issue in person and on the phone?

Finally, I figured I would get the last laugh... I will fly stand-by. They have many seats available, and I will undoubtedly get one just by showing up. I won't have to pay more and I won't have to give them any more miles. Screw United. 

I will be canceling my United credit card and telling my company travel agentcy that we will no longer be using United.

Oh... every United employee I spoke with thanked me for being a Premier customer, having flown nearly 200,000 miles with this airline alone.

What do I want as compensation? There is no compensation for the grief and suffering caused by their unfriendly policies.

Happy Holidays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used a frequent flier ticket to come to Los Angeles. While here, I needed oral surgery to remove a tumor. </p>
<p>As a result, I was not able to fly on my scheduled departure date.</p>
<p>I looked up seat availabilty online, and flights that would get me back to the Newark, NJ airport prior to Christmas Eve were showing available seats. When I attmpted to switch my flight, I was told by agents, supervisors and Customer Relations that those seats were ONLY available for purchase. </p>
<p>Since I have been stupid enough to be loyal to United, I had an additional 50,000 miles available and offered these miles in exchange for a seat on one of these flights. I was told by a United airlines Manager at LAX that this was not feasible, as the way the airline makes money is by selling seats, and the only seats they had available were for purchase at a fee of $1,000 or more. The soonest they could let me use the remaining portion of my frequent flyer ticket was on the red-eye Christmas Eve into Christmas day.</p>
<p>They could clearly see at the ticketing counter that I had just had surgery, as I still have a black eye, stitches and a plate in my mouth. What they offered was a &#8220;special fare medical emergency ticket.&#8221; </p>
<p>What&#8217;s even more insulting&#8230; they said that I could fly Orange County to Laguardia, if I paid a $100 change fee. ARE THEY SERIOUS??????</p>
<p>Did I mention that I spent a total of 10 hours yesterday and today trying to resolve this issue in person and on the phone?</p>
<p>Finally, I figured I would get the last laugh&#8230; I will fly stand-by. They have many seats available, and I will undoubtedly get one just by showing up. I won&#8217;t have to pay more and I won&#8217;t have to give them any more miles. Screw United. </p>
<p>I will be canceling my United credit card and telling my company travel agentcy that we will no longer be using United.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230; every United employee I spoke with thanked me for being a Premier customer, having flown nearly 200,000 miles with this airline alone.</p>
<p>What do I want as compensation? There is no compensation for the grief and suffering caused by their unfriendly policies.</p>
<p>Happy Holidays.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil N</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/11/14/i-loathe-united/#comment-66767</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Interesting thread. I'm 1K on United and Platinum on US Airways. My experience has been as follows:

United: middle-of-the road service (some great crews, some surly), clean planes, on-time departures, lots of good information (including automatic rebooking if connection is missed -- just look at my SMS and go to gate), free audio (*love* channel 9!), not-so-bad snack boxes, economy plus at no extra $ if you fly 25k mi/year (agree -- everyone should have this option if available), decent first class (not fantastic, but not bad), including the ability to upgrade a low fare with a systemwide cert to Asia -- very nice perk for the 1Ks -- we get 6 per year. Overall, it's not been as bad an experience for me over the past several years as it seems others have encoutered. 

US Airways: same inconsistent in-flight service (some great crews -- usually the old AWA -- but some nasty ones), and the rest is worse... consistently dirty planes, laughably incompetent ground staff, sub-standard first class (plastic cups!), all departure/arrival times end with "-ish" as in "we'll take off around 8-ish", pay for headsets, lousy entertainment, terrible food, very cheap FF program (impossible to redeem or upgrade, even as platinum, despite "unlimited upgrade" propoganda, 120 segment threshold to Chairmans (this is prohibitive), no drink coupons, no extra "perks")

I admit that no domestic carrier is giving service that I would consider good, but given that the public is demanding low price above all, at least United is making an attempt to keep it's FFs happy. For all of the complaints above (and, I'm not arguing -- I believe your complaints are totally legitimate -- United needs to treat its non-FFs MUCH better to INCENT loyalty), I think United is doing a decent job keeping its FFs happy. Could be better, but it's not as bad as it could be (and is, frankly, on US Airways).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Interesting thread. I&#8217;m 1K on United and Platinum on US Airways. My experience has been as follows:</p>
<p>United: middle-of-the road service (some great crews, some surly), clean planes, on-time departures, lots of good information (including automatic rebooking if connection is missed &#8212; just look at my SMS and go to gate), free audio (*love* channel 9!), not-so-bad snack boxes, economy plus at no extra $ if you fly 25k mi/year (agree &#8212; everyone should have this option if available), decent first class (not fantastic, but not bad), including the ability to upgrade a low fare with a systemwide cert to Asia &#8212; very nice perk for the 1Ks &#8212; we get 6 per year. Overall, it&#8217;s not been as bad an experience for me over the past several years as it seems others have encoutered. </p>
<p>US Airways: same inconsistent in-flight service (some great crews &#8212; usually the old AWA &#8212; but some nasty ones), and the rest is worse&#8230; consistently dirty planes, laughably incompetent ground staff, sub-standard first class (plastic cups!), all departure/arrival times end with &#8220;-ish&#8221; as in &#8220;we&#8217;ll take off around 8-ish&#8221;, pay for headsets, lousy entertainment, terrible food, very cheap FF program (impossible to redeem or upgrade, even as platinum, despite &#8220;unlimited upgrade&#8221; propoganda, 120 segment threshold to Chairmans (this is prohibitive), no drink coupons, no extra &#8220;perks&#8221;)</p>
<p>I admit that no domestic carrier is giving service that I would consider good, but given that the public is demanding low price above all, at least United is making an attempt to keep it&#8217;s FFs happy. For all of the complaints above (and, I&#8217;m not arguing &#8212; I believe your complaints are totally legitimate &#8212; United needs to treat its non-FFs MUCH better to INCENT loyalty), I think United is doing a decent job keeping its FFs happy. Could be better, but it&#8217;s not as bad as it could be (and is, frankly, on US Airways).</p>
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		<title>By: Rennee D.</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/11/14/i-loathe-united/#comment-65370</link>
		<dc:creator>Rennee D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate United too. I was stuck in NYC due to a cancelled flight because of a storm and was on standby for over 36 hours. United did not give s*** about me during that time. They prioritize their stand-by list according to paid the most $. I was on standby for over a dozen flights and during that time United was completely unhelpful in helping me get home. I had already bought and paid for my ticket and they treated me like dirt. 

Don't ever fly United and if you do, I hope you're flight doesn't get cancelled because of "weather" because you will see that all they care about is $</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate United too. I was stuck in NYC due to a cancelled flight because of a storm and was on standby for over 36 hours. United did not give s*** about me during that time. They prioritize their stand-by list according to paid the most $. I was on standby for over a dozen flights and during that time United was completely unhelpful in helping me get home. I had already bought and paid for my ticket and they treated me like dirt. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ever fly United and if you do, I hope you&#8217;re flight doesn&#8217;t get cancelled because of &#8220;weather&#8221; because you will see that all they care about is $</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie Vigil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frankie Vigil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sitting in san fran airport during a four hour delay waiting for the pilots to show up. not thinking I will try them again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sitting in san fran airport during a four hour delay waiting for the pilots to show up. not thinking I will try them again.</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/11/14/i-loathe-united/#comment-11369</link>
		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I must state I am a frequent flier. I have a little under 1mm miles with United... however, in their effort to move back toward insolvency or get sold in the industry consolidation...let me share the story.

I too can no longer stand this airline. My most recent experience that has placed this in the "I am taking my business elsewhere mode" I flew Denver to NY, NY to Dulles, Dulles to Heathrow in order to save some money on a ticket (United's strategy, if we can maximize our load and get people to kill themselves in that process, sure we'll let them save a couple of bucks...still around a $1000.00 bucks.... when I tried to come back one day early as a premier exec I was told without a Saturday night stay there would be two additional components...A $200 change fee AND a fare change of "something a little over $2000.00 however, we cannot tell you until we reissue... net net. I'll stay in the UK one more day... have a little more time to think about it... away from my family... and then fly anyone else I possibly can whenever I can.... I only thank my lucky stars I'm one of their better customers...I'd hate to see a worse customer experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I must state I am a frequent flier. I have a little under 1mm miles with United&#8230; however, in their effort to move back toward insolvency or get sold in the industry consolidation&#8230;let me share the story.</p>
<p>I too can no longer stand this airline. My most recent experience that has placed this in the &#8220;I am taking my business elsewhere mode&#8221; I flew Denver to NY, NY to Dulles, Dulles to Heathrow in order to save some money on a ticket (United&#8217;s strategy, if we can maximize our load and get people to kill themselves in that process, sure we&#8217;ll let them save a couple of bucks&#8230;still around a $1000.00 bucks&#8230;. when I tried to come back one day early as a premier exec I was told without a Saturday night stay there would be two additional components&#8230;A $200 change fee AND a fare change of &#8220;something a little over $2000.00 however, we cannot tell you until we reissue&#8230; net net. I&#8217;ll stay in the UK one more day&#8230; have a little more time to think about it&#8230; away from my family&#8230; and then fly anyone else I possibly can whenever I can&#8230;. I only thank my lucky stars I&#8217;m one of their better customers&#8230;I&#8217;d hate to see a worse customer experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Mahesh</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/11/14/i-loathe-united/#comment-6296</link>
		<dc:creator>Mahesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 04:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>United Airlines stole nearly $3000 from my parents at time when they were most helpless, and stranded in Los Angeles airport, weary from having undergone surgery and nearly 1500 away miles from the nearest child. What United Airlines did amounts to extortion, breach of contract and abuse of the elderly, not to mention stealing! They have steadfastly refused to refund the money that was unduly charged, despite my best efforts to resolve this matter fairly. I have started a blog to broadcast the full story for the whole world to see the inner workings of United Air Lines.

Read my full story at
http://evilunitedairlines.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>United Airlines stole nearly $3000 from my parents at time when they were most helpless, and stranded in Los Angeles airport, weary from having undergone surgery and nearly 1500 away miles from the nearest child. What United Airlines did amounts to extortion, breach of contract and abuse of the elderly, not to mention stealing! They have steadfastly refused to refund the money that was unduly charged, despite my best efforts to resolve this matter fairly. I have started a blog to broadcast the full story for the whole world to see the inner workings of United Air Lines.</p>
<p>Read my full story at<br />
<a href="http://evilunitedairlines.blogspot.com" >http://evilunitedairlines.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mahesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mahesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about United Air Lines suck!  They have extorted nearly $3000 from my parents and I am fighting back to recover that money.  Please check out my blog and add your comments as your help counts in my fight agains this injustice by United Air Lines.

http://evilunitedairlines.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about United Air Lines suck!  They have extorted nearly $3000 from my parents and I am fighting back to recover that money.  Please check out my blog and add your comments as your help counts in my fight agains this injustice by United Air Lines.</p>
<p><a href="http://evilunitedairlines.blogspot.com/" >http://evilunitedairlines.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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