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	<title>Comments on: The RedMonk IT Report: Mint, Rsync/Dirvish, Ubuntu, and Zimbra</title>
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	<description>because technology is just another ecosystem</description>
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		<title>By: James Stansell</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/08/15/the-redmonk-it-report-mint-rsyncdirvish-ubuntu-and-zimbra/#comment-77053</link>
		<dc:creator>James Stansell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 17:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I’d love to have an ‘apt-get install stuff that needs to be updated for security reasons’"

When you have the security repository in the sources.list then an 'apt-get update &#38;&#38; apt-get upgrade' will do it.  (Assuming you don't have non-interesting repositories also listed.)

(Of course, I'm replying so late here that 1) you hopefully have already learned this elsewhere; and 2) you may never see this post.)

Regards,

-james.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’d love to have an ‘apt-get install stuff that needs to be updated for security reasons’&#8221;</p>
<p>When you have the security repository in the sources.list then an &#8216;apt-get update &amp;&amp; apt-get upgrade&#8217; will do it.  (Assuming you don&#8217;t have non-interesting repositories also listed.)</p>
<p>(Of course, I&#8217;m replying so late here that 1) you hopefully have already learned this elsewhere; and 2) you may never see this post.)</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>-james.</p>
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		<title>By: Donnie Berkholz</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/08/15/the-redmonk-it-report-mint-rsyncdirvish-ubuntu-and-zimbra/#comment-2233</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnie Berkholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda's also worth checking out for backup.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda&#8217;s also worth checking out for backup.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen o'grady</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/08/15/the-redmonk-it-report-mint-rsyncdirvish-ubuntu-and-zimbra/#comment-2232</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen o'grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeWitt: rsnapshot looks interesting - i think i ran across it before in Senor Pilgrim's del.icio.us links. any idea how it compares to Dirvish (yes, i'm so lazy i haven't googled it yet ;)?

Thomas: thanks. we try to make opacity the exception here rather than the rule, if only to practice what we preach. more to the point, i don't see a whole lot of downside: we have had problems, everyone knows that, so why not be open about what caused them? it's easier, i'll grant, because running the infrastructure is but one of my jobs rather than my only job so i'm not as invested in protecting my reputation in that space, but even then i think it's better to be up front than obscure.  

in addition, thx for the SocialText recommendation. i've used it in the past, and like it quite a bit, and we run MediaWiki internally along with DokuWiki, but i'm looking for something sort of wiki-like but with other capabilities. i've got something in mind, we'll see if it's packaged and ready in time. 

toby: i've been after the Zimbra guys to support S10 for a while, we'll see if we can make progress there. from what we're hearing there's actually a lot of interest in the OS X port, which i would not have predicted. 

as for Jabber, we know those guys and have a great deal of respect for them. Joe, in fact, set us up with a conference room during the initial part of our IRC chat today. longer term we'll explore that as an option, but for now a lot of the users we're looking to chat with will be running IRC. 

thx for the TWiki recommendation as well. 

Kevin: excellent, comprehensive feedback. now i just need to find out when MACCIuS might but 4 out ;) 

but on a more serious note, i have followed the blogs for a while, and was aware on a superficial level both from them and talking to guys like Scott and John about the REST support, but it hadn't really sunken in until i went back and reread some of those posts. there is a *ton* that can be done with that data - the most important thing now is building out the ecosystem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeWitt: rsnapshot looks interesting - i think i ran across it before in Senor Pilgrim&#8217;s del.icio.us links. any idea how it compares to Dirvish (yes, i&#8217;m so lazy i haven&#8217;t googled it yet ;)?</p>
<p>Thomas: thanks. we try to make opacity the exception here rather than the rule, if only to practice what we preach. more to the point, i don&#8217;t see a whole lot of downside: we have had problems, everyone knows that, so why not be open about what caused them? it&#8217;s easier, i&#8217;ll grant, because running the infrastructure is but one of my jobs rather than my only job so i&#8217;m not as invested in protecting my reputation in that space, but even then i think it&#8217;s better to be up front than obscure.  </p>
<p>in addition, thx for the SocialText recommendation. i&#8217;ve used it in the past, and like it quite a bit, and we run MediaWiki internally along with DokuWiki, but i&#8217;m looking for something sort of wiki-like but with other capabilities. i&#8217;ve got something in mind, we&#8217;ll see if it&#8217;s packaged and ready in time. </p>
<p>toby: i&#8217;ve been after the Zimbra guys to support S10 for a while, we&#8217;ll see if we can make progress there. from what we&#8217;re hearing there&#8217;s actually a lot of interest in the OS X port, which i would not have predicted. </p>
<p>as for Jabber, we know those guys and have a great deal of respect for them. Joe, in fact, set us up with a conference room during the initial part of our IRC chat today. longer term we&#8217;ll explore that as an option, but for now a lot of the users we&#8217;re looking to chat with will be running IRC. </p>
<p>thx for the TWiki recommendation as well. </p>
<p>Kevin: excellent, comprehensive feedback. now i just need to find out when MACCIuS might but 4 out <img src='http://redmonk.com/sogrady/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>but on a more serious note, i have followed the blogs for a while, and was aware on a superficial level both from them and talking to guys like Scott and John about the REST support, but it hadn&#8217;t really sunken in until i went back and reread some of those posts. there is a *ton* that can be done with that data - the most important thing now is building out the ecosystem.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Henrikson</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/08/15/the-redmonk-it-report-mint-rsyncdirvish-ubuntu-and-zimbra/#comment-2231</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Henrikson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stephen,

   Thanks for the update/feedback.  We just pushed Zimbra 4.0 RC1 this week at Linux World, and plan to have it GA in a few weeks.  That said several of the items you mentioned are already part of 4.0.

 - Calendar: We now remember which calendars you have checked so it will load your favorite calendars at login.

 - Migration: The current version of the Exchange and PST migration tools only handled Email/Contacts.  In 4.0, calendar is now supported.  Not a factor for you anymore but FYI none the less.

 - Tags: Today we do our best to expose tags outside of the Web UI.  In Outlook we map them to categories so you can filter, sort, search locally on them if you wish.  It will also let you put categories on a message and that syncs back to the server so they show up on the web UI.  For IMAP your only option today is to create a search folder (aka saved search) which can be enabled to show up as read-only folders in IMAP.

 - Your Data: We provide many ways to get at and share your data.  We've got a REST interface on the server that allows you to access any item in Zimbra via SOAP, JSON, ZIP, iCal, CSV, IFB (free busy), sync (full meta data), and atom/rss.

Roland has written several posts on the subject:
http://www.zimbra.com/blog/archives/roland_schemers/

   ZCS 4.0 adds the ability to share calendars and documents publicly or to specific external users (email address and password access.) Just right-click on a folder and setup the sharing or grant/deny access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stephen,</p>
<p>   Thanks for the update/feedback.  We just pushed Zimbra 4.0 RC1 this week at Linux World, and plan to have it GA in a few weeks.  That said several of the items you mentioned are already part of 4.0.</p>
<p> - Calendar: We now remember which calendars you have checked so it will load your favorite calendars at login.</p>
<p> - Migration: The current version of the Exchange and PST migration tools only handled Email/Contacts.  In 4.0, calendar is now supported.  Not a factor for you anymore but FYI none the less.</p>
<p> - Tags: Today we do our best to expose tags outside of the Web UI.  In Outlook we map them to categories so you can filter, sort, search locally on them if you wish.  It will also let you put categories on a message and that syncs back to the server so they show up on the web UI.  For IMAP your only option today is to create a search folder (aka saved search) which can be enabled to show up as read-only folders in IMAP.</p>
<p> - Your Data: We provide many ways to get at and share your data.  We&#8217;ve got a REST interface on the server that allows you to access any item in Zimbra via SOAP, JSON, ZIP, iCal, CSV, IFB (free busy), sync (full meta data), and atom/rss.</p>
<p>Roland has written several posts on the subject:<br />
<a href="http://www.zimbra.com/blog/archives/roland_schemers/" >http://www.zimbra.com/blog/archives/roland_schemers/</a></p>
<p>   ZCS 4.0 adds the ability to share calendars and documents publicly or to specific external users (email address and password access.) Just right-click on a folder and setup the sharing or grant/deny access.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and for wiki, we use TWiki extensively. Check it out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and for wiki, we use TWiki extensively. Check it out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering Zimbra also (on Solaris 10, which isn't really supported yet).

For instant messaging: I strongly recommend Jabber (which is to irc as Subversion is to CVS!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering Zimbra also (on Solaris 10, which isn&#8217;t really supported yet).</p>
<p>For instant messaging: I strongly recommend Jabber (which is to irc as Subversion is to CVS!)</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Otter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Otter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 08:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see you are being so transparent about this stuff.  Your blog is your shop window, your pipeline and a major part of your distribution channel, your ERP if you like. 

For your wiki stuff, check out socialtext. Been using it internally here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see you are being so transparent about this stuff.  Your blog is your shop window, your pipeline and a major part of your distribution channel, your ERP if you like. </p>
<p>For your wiki stuff, check out socialtext. Been using it internally here.</p>
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		<title>By: DeWitt Clinton</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeWitt Clinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great status report.  It is useful to hear what you're up to.

Regarding backups, I have been happily using &lt;a href="http://www.rsnapshot.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;rsnapshot&lt;/a&gt;.  The rsnapshot tool automates the rsync process (over ssh) to create rolling copies on a remote disk.  I use it on unto.net to keep hourly and daily snapshots of critical directories.  So if anything goes bad in production I have an exact duplicate waiting offsite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great status report.  It is useful to hear what you&#8217;re up to.</p>
<p>Regarding backups, I have been happily using <a href="http://www.rsnapshot.org/" >rsnapshot</a>.  The rsnapshot tool automates the rsync process (over ssh) to create rolling copies on a remote disk.  I use it on unto.net to keep hourly and daily snapshots of critical directories.  So if anything goes bad in production I have an exact duplicate waiting offsite.</p>
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