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	<title>Comments on: Who Turned Out the Lights? - Or, the Straw that Broke 1and1&#8217;s Back</title>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 06:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are ever in the need for hosting again please check out my site <a href="http://www.thehostguru.com" >http://www.thehostguru.com</a> as I list only the most reliable web hosts.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen o'grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen o'grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Rob: 

so did we, until all of this started happening. if you do a search here, you'll even discover a thread from me thanking them for their uptime. 

if you're happy with them, great, and i hope your experience stays as positive as it is now. 

what i would be concerned about is if it suddenly went sour as ours did, because they simply are unable to service their clients. 

best of luck either way. 

sog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Rob: </p>
<p>so did we, until all of this started happening. if you do a search here, you&#8217;ll even discover a thread from me thanking them for their uptime. </p>
<p>if you&#8217;re happy with them, great, and i hope your experience stays as positive as it is now. </p>
<p>what i would be concerned about is if it suddenly went sour as ours did, because they simply are unable to service their clients. </p>
<p>best of luck either way. </p>
<p>sog</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 18:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using 1&#38;1 for domains for a while now. I like them. Sorry to hear about bad experiences, but I have no beef with them. My friends use them for hosting and have no problems either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using 1&amp;1 for domains for a while now. I like them. Sorry to hear about bad experiences, but I have no beef with them. My friends use them for hosting and have no problems either.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rafe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 14:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm honestly not sure what the difference is between managed and unmanaged.  Layered Tech provided me with a bare Fedora Core 4 box and some IP addresses, and the rest was up to me.  I upgraded the kernel and something broke, and they logged in and fixed it for me (and didn't charge me anything).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m honestly not sure what the difference is between managed and unmanaged.  Layered Tech provided me with a bare Fedora Core 4 box and some IP addresses, and the rest was up to me.  I upgraded the kernel and something broke, and they logged in and fixed it for me (and didn&#8217;t charge me anything).</p>
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		<title>By: rick gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 06:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... been with those guys 2 years. No issues and  nothing like this out there when I signed up. I'll have to keep an eye on them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; been with those guys 2 years. No issues and  nothing like this out there when I signed up. I&#8217;ll have to keep an eye on them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 04:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can recommend johncompanies.com and have also been trying out their new product rsync.net. I also have larger boxes at theplanet.com and ev1servers.net (who have just merged) although they are no longer price leaders in this category. johncompanies do colo too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can recommend johncompanies.com and have also been trying out their new product rsync.net. I also have larger boxes at theplanet.com and ev1servers.net (who have just merged) although they are no longer price leaders in this category. johncompanies do colo too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Dolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Dolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 02:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My recommendation is to host it yourself. I've tried just about every host out there (1and1 was one of my first abismal experiences) and most recently GoDaddy.com left me dry when the moved to SenderID for email "protection".

Try out OpenSuse 10.1 - it's very easy to setup firewall permissions at the server with YaST or my preference, control ports at the router and server. Backing up isn't difficult - since you're using MySQL on the backend you can just create a backup with phpmyadmin in seconds or setup a script to do it automatically. With OpenSUSE 10.1 you can also easily run setup servers in Xen.

I hate poor hosting experiences and prefer to have complete control over the architecture and administration. I've been trying it out myself recently and have had no real issues thus far on a "testing" domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My recommendation is to host it yourself. I&#8217;ve tried just about every host out there (1and1 was one of my first abismal experiences) and most recently GoDaddy.com left me dry when the moved to SenderID for email &#8220;protection&#8221;.</p>
<p>Try out OpenSuse 10.1 - it&#8217;s very easy to setup firewall permissions at the server with YaST or my preference, control ports at the router and server. Backing up isn&#8217;t difficult - since you&#8217;re using MySQL on the backend you can just create a backup with phpmyadmin in seconds or setup a script to do it automatically. With OpenSUSE 10.1 you can also easily run setup servers in Xen.</p>
<p>I hate poor hosting experiences and prefer to have complete control over the architecture and administration. I&#8217;ve been trying it out myself recently and have had no real issues thus far on a &#8220;testing&#8221; domain.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen ogrady</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen ogrady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 02:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rick: thanks for the advice. my default behavior at this point when evaluating hosts is to search "HOSTNAME sucks," and LunarPages has some negative returns there. RBW, on the other hand, doesn't return much, so they seem to not have pissed too many people off. 

rafe: layered tech looks decent; they're on the shortlist. my concern is that they bill themselves as a budget unmanaged server option - if i need unmanaged, i'll probably just colo - it's all the same. 

ryan: thx much - rackmounted looks solid. have an inquiry into them right now. 

Dan: you're right; i'll be interested to see how they fare once they transition to S10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rick: thanks for the advice. my default behavior at this point when evaluating hosts is to search &#8220;HOSTNAME sucks,&#8221; and LunarPages has some negative returns there. RBW, on the other hand, doesn&#8217;t return much, so they seem to not have pissed too many people off. </p>
<p>rafe: layered tech looks decent; they&#8217;re on the shortlist. my concern is that they bill themselves as a budget unmanaged server option - if i need unmanaged, i&#8217;ll probably just colo - it&#8217;s all the same. </p>
<p>ryan: thx much - rackmounted looks solid. have an inquiry into them right now. </p>
<p>Dan: you&#8217;re right; i&#8217;ll be interested to see how they fare once they transition to S10.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rafe:  Were you on the Shared plan?  I'd definitely advise people not to sign up for the Shared plan until Textdrive gets things in better shape (i.e., until after they switch to Solaris, perhaps giving them a few months to see whether things are stable).  But as far as the responsiveness and tech savvy of the staff is concernd, I feel like TextDrive is great; and I don't think the Business plans have faced the same level of problems their Shared plans did.  Having said that, I've been on the Shared plan myself and it was definitely rough for a while, so I understand where you're coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafe:  Were you on the Shared plan?  I&#8217;d definitely advise people not to sign up for the Shared plan until Textdrive gets things in better shape (i.e., until after they switch to Solaris, perhaps giving them a few months to see whether things are stable).  But as far as the responsiveness and tech savvy of the staff is concernd, I feel like TextDrive is great; and I don&#8217;t think the Business plans have faced the same level of problems their Shared plans did.  Having said that, I&#8217;ve been on the Shared plan myself and it was definitely rough for a while, so I understand where you&#8217;re coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Tomayko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Tomayko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 20:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to recommend http://rackmounted.com. Good prices on dedicated boxes and I know two of the admin's first names / direct emails. 

I haven't messed around w/ shared or virtual hosting for some time now - dedicated is so insanely cheap (rackmounted entry level: $64/mo) that it's kind of silly to consider anything else. Shared hosting still has a market but it's not you!

Consider throwing $230/mo at this Xeon and just go crazy:

http://www.rackmounted.com/xeon.php

Or, save $10/mo on what you're paying now on this guy:

http://www.rackmounted.com/Pentium4.php

You guys need to get crackin on your suite of simple Analyst 2.0 tools and services and that should do you just fine for quite a while :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to recommend <a href="http://rackmounted.com" >http://rackmounted.com</a>. Good prices on dedicated boxes and I know two of the admin&#8217;s first names / direct emails. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t messed around w/ shared or virtual hosting for some time now - dedicated is so insanely cheap (rackmounted entry level: $64/mo) that it&#8217;s kind of silly to consider anything else. Shared hosting still has a market but it&#8217;s not you!</p>
<p>Consider throwing $230/mo at this Xeon and just go crazy:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rackmounted.com/xeon.php" >http://www.rackmounted.com/xeon.php</a></p>
<p>Or, save $10/mo on what you&#8217;re paying now on this guy:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rackmounted.com/Pentium4.php" >http://www.rackmounted.com/Pentium4.php</a></p>
<p>You guys need to get crackin on your suite of simple Analyst 2.0 tools and services and that should do you just fine for quite a while <img src='http://redmonk.com/sogrady/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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