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	<title>Comments on: Sun&#8217;s Got a New CEO: The Q&#38;A</title>
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	<description>because technology is just another ecosystem</description>
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		<title>By: stephen o'grady</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2006/04/26/suns-got-a-new-ceo-the-qa/#comment-1926</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen o'grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 03:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>billsaysthis: interesting, and thanks for the clarification. that contradicts what i was told at the time and have had validated several times subsequently, but you're in a position to know. 

Cote: a closer relationship b/twn Sun and Genuitec is definitely a good thing, IMO. maybe they can be a bridge between the two factions. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>billsaysthis: interesting, and thanks for the clarification. that contradicts what i was told at the time and have had validated several times subsequently, but you&#8217;re in a position to know. </p>
<p>Cote: a closer relationship b/twn Sun and Genuitec is definitely a good thing, IMO. maybe they can be a bridge between the two factions.</p>
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		<title>By: Cote'</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cote'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 16:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, of course, couldn't agree more about Eclipse. Along those lines, how about a closer Sun alliance/relationship with &lt;a href="http://www.genuitec.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Genuitec&lt;/a&gt;, perhaps even a name change from &lt;a href="http://www.myeclipseide.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;MyEclipse&lt;/a&gt; to SunEclipse. 

That'd be wild, but in a good way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, of course, couldn&#8217;t agree more about Eclipse. Along those lines, how about a closer Sun alliance/relationship with <a href="http://www.genuitec.com/" rel="nofollow">Genuitec</a>, perhaps even a name change from <a href="http://www.myeclipseide.com/" >MyEclipse</a> to SunEclipse. </p>
<p>That&#8217;d be wild, but in a good way.</p>
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		<title>By: billsaysthis</title>
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		<dc:creator>billsaysthis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"when the application server was a mishmash of Kiva, NetDynamics and Netscape code"

This is factually incorrect but as the NetD tech support manager and then the iAS product manager I'll try and clarify. To start, Kiva was acquired by Netscape and became the Netscape Application Server. Second, when iPlanet came about and the two products were in the same org the executives (after nearly a year of painful indecision, acutely felt by the team I was managing) chose Netscape as the code base for the iPlanet Application Server. 

The idea of combining the best bits of code from each was tossed in the air by management but let's just say that was never going to happen. The only thing that was a mess was the management and one reason I am still pessimistic about Sun is that quite a few of those men are still in key roles while lots of good smart but less politically adept people were RIFfed.

(Sorry if this comment gets duped.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;when the application server was a mishmash of Kiva, NetDynamics and Netscape code&#8221;</p>
<p>This is factually incorrect but as the NetD tech support manager and then the iAS product manager I&#8217;ll try and clarify. To start, Kiva was acquired by Netscape and became the Netscape Application Server. Second, when iPlanet came about and the two products were in the same org the executives (after nearly a year of painful indecision, acutely felt by the team I was managing) chose Netscape as the code base for the iPlanet Application Server. </p>
<p>The idea of combining the best bits of code from each was tossed in the air by management but let&#8217;s just say that was never going to happen. The only thing that was a mess was the management and one reason I am still pessimistic about Sun is that quite a few of those men are still in key roles while lots of good smart but less politically adept people were RIFfed.</p>
<p>(Sorry if this comment gets duped.)</p>
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