Comments on: Solaris-ing the New RedMonk Gear

By: Derek Morr

Derek Morr — Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:28:26 +0000

If you’d like to get nano, try installing Blastwave - http://www.blastwave.org - on Solaris. You can use their pkg-get tool which works similarly to Debian’s apt-get, and they have a nano package (I’m the nano maintainer for them).

By: David

David — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 06:01:30 +0000

Hi Stephen, the reason the wheel group is missing is that wheel came from BSD and was not brought over into Solaris in the transition between SunOS 4.x and Solaris 2.x. It also happens to be one of the BSD’ish features in Linux.

David

By: Jim Grisanzio

Jim Grisanzio — Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:50:57 +0000

Hey, Stephen. Regarding wikis: opensolaris.org will be wiki-fied, so to speak, more than it is now. We had a wiki in the pilot program, we do use wikis internally for various things, and the current live site now has some wiki features in that community members (that is, members of a *specific* community) can edit their community pages. For instance, the DTrace community has a community (non-Sun) editor along with Bryan and Adam, so does the PPC community, and I plan to add community people to my user group community as editors when we open that up (hopefully this week). So, editors of a community — initially Sun people — can add external people as editors right now. Over time (sooner, rather than later), we’ll build access control into the system so that we can assign different levels of rights to people (internal to Sun and external as well) so they can have the freedom to write and edit and build out the content of their communities but not necessarily step over each other. And editorial policy outlining who does what on the site would be helpful, too. — Jim

By: sogrady

sogrady — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:50:17 +0000

thanks for the tip, Stephen - but after running it my nmap only shows a few more services shutdown. it seems as if from the script (http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/usr/src/cmd/svc/profile/generic_limited_net.xml) provides for several services, and many of the remaining running services are nfs/rpc related. i guess they have to stay, but it still seems like more openings than necessary.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:40:15 +0000

To shutdown quickly most of the Solaris default services with open ports:

# svccfg apply /var/svc/profile/generic_limited_net.xml

(More details at the provided URL.) Other points all well taken.

— Stephen

By: sogrady

sogrady — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:24:55 +0000

Matt: i should have been clearer on this - i actually can use it, i’m just terrible with it. it has been, as you note, the standard for a while - but a lot of the Linux distros i’ve used supply nano as well, which is far more user friendly (IMO). the good news is that i was able to (with the help of a cheat sheet) do what i needed to do, and now have my beloved nano
James: the ps stuff i actually probably won’t bother with; that i think is simply just a learning exercise.

on the shell front, i’m aware that there are other options. what i’m wondering is why you ship with that as the default? i don’t believe it’s compatability, since from what i gather from dennis over at blastwave it’s safe to alter the root shell in version 10 (but not prior versions). as for it being a fad, i don’t think i’d use that term in conjunction with bash or alternatives, a.) because that implies that they are shortlived, which doesn’t seem to be the case, and b.) because a high volume of users seem sufficiently motivated to take the risk of altering their root shell - indicating that it may be an actual need.

By: James Carlson

James Carlson — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:46:51 +0000

If you really like the old BSD-style ‘ps’ arguments, that’s still there (and supported) under /usr/ucb/ps.

As for the shells issue, Solaris ships with a number of different shells, but the default must remain the old UNIX Bourne shell for compatibility reasons. We prize compatibility highly; breaking some obscure working application just to follow a fad isn’t something we do.

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:25:43 +0000

Vi is something you need to know how to use…. at one point in history ed was the ed[itor] of choice on *nix systems, but today vi is standard. You don’t need to know anything advanced. Just how to move around (hjkl), and how to save (ESC, :wq). Once you can do that, you can edit just enough to get yourself your nano.

By: sogrady

sogrady — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:45:23 +0000

Jaime: i think you hit the nail on the head when you call it the little things. sure, i can drop into bash, but is there a reason to use a less functional shell? pre-S10, apparently there was (due to dynamic library concerns), but now? and thx for the welcome.

ThinGuy: twist my arm short answer is yes, i’ve wanted to demo the SunRays for a while. if you’ve got one to spare, drop me a line over email.

Christopher: 10GB/month. fine for what should be modest needs on our part.

and yes, the nmap is terrifying. my only consolation is that there’s nothing of any consequence on the box at the moment, so if it’s 0wn3d, i’m only out the install time. first step is shutting down the services.

By: christopher baus

christopher baus — Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:27:36 +0000

BTW, that nmap looks down right frightening. ; )

It scares the hell out of me when I see ports open that I don’t even know what they are for. Looks like the first think you need to do is figure out the firewall options.