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EMC and the Cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince

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I went to an EMC analyst event yesterday to find out more about the firm’s cloud strategy. Unfortunately I left with the impression that the company really needs to get its story straight. Cloud is an extremely nebulous term, and as such must be treated with care in marketing, but also product development.

EMC was keen to position its VCE (VMware, Cisco, EMC) alliance as something new, as a new way to acquire compute capacity, bundled virtualised network, server and storage infrastructure. VCE claims to offers “seamless support” across modular building blocks. VCE to me sounds a bit like an Ecostructure (blueprints, integrated support offerings etc) for 2010, but without the database. What is more – surely when you are positioning seamless support in an alliance with your own subsidiary, VMWare, then something is not quite right. I thought VMware under new CEO Paul Maritz, was going to be getting closer to the mothership.

After all, what is VMWare’s second act? Nothing less than to try and make cloud computing synonymous with VMware in the same way that virtualisation is. As far as VMware is concerned, VDC-OS is the private cloud. So much so that it swiftly renamed it Cloud-OS.

Reporting back from VMworld 09 my business partner Stephen O’Grady said:

Make no mistake about it, one of the primary assets VMware has in its battle to win the cloud is its enterprise acceptance. While most cloud startups – and even Amazon, to a certain extent, virtual private clouds or no – will have to answer and reanswer questions about their technology, their long term viability and the quality of their support organization, VMware is a known – and for the most part, trusted – entity with most of the Fortune 1000.

VMware plans to parlay that trust, combined with some powerful technology, into Enterprise (or for “enterprise”, initially at least, read “private”) Cloud leadership. EMC’s story however isn’t quite so clear.

The essential problem I have with VCE is that it involves big chunks of hardware. Cloud is a services story, and cloud is a software story, but cloud is definitely not a hardware story, except in as much as it fundamentally changes the way we consume system resources. Which brings us back to VCE and the title of this post.

Today everything in IT is described as a cloud. I have to be mindful that the purity of my initial humourous/serious take:  15 Ways to Tell Its Not Cloud Computing has been left behind.

The consensus now appears to be

Cloud Computing = Virtualisation+Automation+Software as a Service (SaaS)+SOA evolution

But. If the scaling is not elastic, is has no right to be called a cloud. That’s a line in the sand. Without elastic scaling, up and down, its not a cloud. Interesting to note that Gartner’s Nick Gall agrees.

VCE may or not be a “better” way than traditional purchasing of networking, storage and systems – the units of work, “Vblocks” are

preconfigured, pretested solutions based on Cisco’s Unified Computing System (UCS) and networking switches, EMC’s Symmetrix or Clariion storage arrays and VMware’s vSphere server virtualization platform.

During the briefing this week EMC could not provide me with specifics about the Vblocks other than they came in three different sizes, and are priced “per virtual image.” According to ChannelWeb:

  • Vblock 2, according to the companies, is the high-end version, designed to support 3,000 to 6,000 virtual machines using Cisco’s UCS, Nexus 1000v and Multilayer directional switches (MDS), as well as EMC’s Symmetrix V-max storage and VMware’s vSphere platform.
  • Vblock 1, for the midmarket, is designed for 800 to 3,000 virtual machines and uses a similar configuration to the Vblock 2, but EMC’s Clariion storage instead of the Symmetrix V-max.
  • Vblock 0, the low-end configuration, won’t be available until 2010 but will according to the companies support 300 to 800 virtual machines and use the same configuration — Cisco UCS, VMware vSphere — but swap in EMC’s Unified Storage. According to Cisco, the Vblock 0 package will be available for test and development by channel partners, including VARs, service providers and ISVs.

But it wasn’t clear how enterprise compute purchasing is actually simplified with Vblocks. Frankly an enterprise could buy an IBM System z mainframe and it would be just like a Vblock- a fully-virtualised, pre-tested, pretested solution based on IBM software and gear. IBM doesn’t have a TotalStorage, System p and WebSphere coalition.

My aim here is certainly not to criticize EMC for making it easy for customers to purchase gear, but the Cloud should be about purchasing compute, not gear. Vblocks will be sold by VARs and integrators such as Accenture, CSC, and Capgemini.

At this point you may be getting an inkling of why I chose the illustration above…if you’re digesting an elephant its not a cloud. I can see Vblocks being a solid channel play. Let hosting companies or SIs offer elastic hosting to their clients. It was notable that EMC’s customer reference for the day was the IT Services arm of Orange, the French telecommunications services company. EMC could perhaps deploy Vblocks to customers, with an agent for billing, and only charge per server image: some mix of local install, agent, and billing as a service. Not so different from IBM used to deploy mainframe to customers back in the day…

Amazon wins customers and partners like Adobe, IBM and Oracle because it has a billing model. A granular one at that.

As I have argued before Amazon is the de facto standard public cloud because, not in spite of,  its simplicity. If EMC wants to dominate the private cloud it will need to not just be modular, but simple, and elastic.Even from a language perspective the idea of a block as a cloud is jarring.

IT operations customers need to be clear that working with EMC on private cloud will mean a fair amount of internal development and process work before they can roll out a cloud-clike service to their internal customers. And when it comes to Opex vs Capex, Vblocks are not a granular unit of work, and they are not yet packaged as a platform to allow internal IT to offer as a cloud service delivery.

VMware is an extraordinary asset in this round of Big Vendor sports, and with that in mind EMC should perhaps let VMware lead the charge. Could Paul Maritz run Cloud at EMC, rather than just running VMware? Obviously its not my place to say, but in terms of assets and narrative clarity VMware is the obvious lead dog.

EMC, Cisco, VMware are not clients. IBM Software Group is a client.

12 comments

  1. “If the scaling is not elastic, is has no right to be called a cloud.” Smart take by @monkchips: http://j.mp/4CVqDC
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  2. #SOA #Blogs EMC and the Cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince:
    I went to an EMC analyst event yest.. http://bit.ly/5nlXk2
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  3. “SOA evolution” sounds too similar to a bad remake. Then again..

    But nice to see some Saint-Exupéry!

  4. On a more serious note, @swardley was getting concerned about definitions of cloud that include virtualization. As much as it might be a key pattern at the moment, clouds don’t need virtualization.

    1. solid point DE. i have thought about that a lot. its true, that cloud can be implemented without virtualisation… but granularity without virtualisation is an awful lot harder. i once asked Werner from Amazon the same question. As far as he is concerned virtualisation is part of “cloud”. if he thinks so, that’s good enough for me… 😉 if you actually read my posts on the subject you’ll see i was quite aggressive in saying the new consensus is rather too fond of complexity for my liking.

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  6. EMC and the Cloud, Or Le Nuage et Le Petit Prince “If the scaling is not elastic, is has no right to be called a cloud” http://bit.ly/7OJx8i
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  7. @WebSphereClouds agree. You see @monkchips post http://bit.ly/8HEKdp “Amazon wins customers & partners…bc it has a granular billing model”
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