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		<title>MindQuilt: What&#039;s in your stack?</title>
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<p><i>In this new series <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/cote/topic/whats-in-your-stack/">&#8220;What&#8217;s in your stack?&#8221;</a> I ask various development teams what technologies, processes, and practices they use to write their applications, get them out the door, and do the ongoing care-and-feeding required.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mindquilt.com">MindQuilt</a> is often described as a &#8220;private Quora,&#8221; the Yammer of the all the Q&amp;A sites out there. They&#8217;re a relatively new and small startup in Austin, but with a fair amount of use, deploying their software as a SaaS. As such, they&#8217;re a good example of he new type of application development and delivery that I see a lot of now-a-days.</p>
<p>I asked their CEO, Dan Kim a few questions about their stack and process:</p>
<h2>What&#8217;s MindQuilt do?</h2>
<p>I&#8217;m CEO of MindQuilt Inc, a knowledge management platform to track, organization, and capture new knowledge and documentation so your company can reduce project and operational risks.</p>
<h2>What tools, languages, and platforms are you using for development and delivering your<br />
software?</h2>
<p>We use a python stack built on top of django. <a href="http://mixpanel.com/">Mixpanel</a> to track our funnel. We don&#8217;t watch people at all because we want to preserve people trust in putting their proprietary information on our platform. Instead, we use <a href="http://www.olark.com/">Olark</a> so people can send in direct feedback or chat with us live if there is a problem.</p>
<h2>Does python encourage spaghetti stacks? Is it more difficult to maintain long-term?</h2>
<p>Yes it is a concern but that&#8217;s true of any language. Some languages (plus frameworks) combat spaghetti by forcing people into a rigid model but that tends to produce overly verbose code with lots of boiler plate. Additionally, it&#8217;s not spaghetti code that&#8217;s a problem but more spaghetti architecture. That&#8217;s outside of the scope of any language or framework. You need to do reviews often. No way around that.</p>
<h2>What&#8217;s a tool that didn&#8217;t work out, and one that has worked surprisingly well?</h2>
<p>We tried using Pivotal+Chat for a long long time. We found that it just didn&#8217;t work out so well for us. I think our team is too small. What has been working are daily calls between our US office and the technology team in Europe. If we need to share a screen we use GoToMeeting and screen-sharing.</p>
<h2>What&#8217;s motivated you do off-shore development? What benefits are you getting?</h2>
<p>We&#8217;re not <i>really</i> offshoring since:</p>
<ol>
<li>My CTO is Romanian and lives in Romania and I have worked with him in person for several years (in Germany and the UK).</li>
<li>Our developers are full time employees with all benefits and stock options. They do nothing else but to work on MindQuilt.</li>
<li>The primary reason for the dev staff to be in Romania is because that&#8217;s where my CTO is.</li>
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<p>As for cost savings, yes we have a bit of cost savings over the market rate, but in a startup, you almost always have people working for under market rate because:</p>
<ul>
<li>they are passionate about the product and have an equity stake</li>
<li>startups have no money</li>
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<p><b>Disclosure:</b> MindQuilt is a client.</p>
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