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		<title>The State of Analyst Relations &#8211; Interview</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet While at Lotusphere this year, John Simonds interviewed me as the first part in a new podcast of his, &#8220;An Analyst’s View of Analyst Relations,&#8221; which is pretty self explanatory, eh? You can download the episode directly or just listen below (click the Play button once it appears): Discover Simple, Private Sharing at Drop.io [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>While at <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/01/21/ls09/">Lotusphere this year</a>, <a href="http://www.johnsimonds.com/2009/01/an-analysts-view-of-analyst-relations-michael-cote-of-redmonk/">John Simonds interviewed me as the first part in a new podcast of his</a>, &#8220;An Analyst’s View of Analyst Relations,&#8221; which is pretty self explanatory, eh? You can <a href="http://drop.io/download/49807105/ae0625e2b9165757757b1febb210350ff4c5db39/15651640-ce16-012b-8dbd-f1c076ebd89f/26a1fd30-ce17-012b-fce6-ff4a3d933af4/cote.mp3/cote_mp3.mp3">download the episode directly</a> or just listen below (click the Play button once it appears):</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.johnsimonds.com/2009/01/an-analysts-view-of-analyst-relations-michael-cote-of-redmonk/">John&#8217;s summary of the episode</a>:</p>
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<p>I [John] focused on state of the nation of A/R, good and bad practices and what could we do to improve our discipline.</p>
<p>On this, I think the key phrase he gives is “giving an analyst a dose of their own medicine”.</p>
<p>He [Cot&eacute;] calls out how to contact him, social media and other relevant topics.</p>
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<p>I&#8217;m always up for talking about analyst relations and all the meta-discusion that goes with this job and industry, e.g.: <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/07/15/dealing-with-analysts-presentation/">my talk on Dealing with Analysts</a> and another interview on <a href="http://blogs.bnet.com/pr/?p=103&amp;tag=content;col1">Do&#8217;s and Don&#8217;ts for Analyst Briefings</a>.</p>
<p><b>Disclosure:</b> IBM, John&#8217;s employer, is a client.</p>
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		<title>IT Management Podcast #33 &#8211; The Night John Saw Stevie Ray Vaughn in a Taco Place</title>
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<p>In this episode, <a href="http://www.johnmwillis.com">John</a> and <a href="http://www.peopleoverprocess.com">I</a> discuss:</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.statesman.com/news/content/standing/awardcomments.html?NomID=37">Go and comment on Coté&#8217;s nomination for the Texas Social Media awards!</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.cloudcamp.com/atlanta/">Cloud Camp ATL</a></li>
<li>Cloud Camp Austin?</li>
<li><a href="http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&amp;ct=us/6-0&amp;fp=49791eb0070dbe74&amp;ei=I-F5SeOhOJXFmQey4tTxCQ&amp;url=http%3A//www.businesswire.com/news/google/20090120005379/en&amp;cid=1295203161&amp;usg=AFQjCNGkZWf7ntHWvV7ZO1pm4MerGSBxtw">Paglo MSP news</a></li>
<li><a href="http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/01-22-2009/0004958623&amp;EDATE=">Splunk partnership news</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.zenoss.com/news/archive/zenosspressrelease.2009-01-21.8369813829">Zenoss funding</a>? Not exactly: they secured a line of credit.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/01/19/spiceworks35/">Spiceworks 3.5</a></li>
<li>Dashboard-cum-widgets</li>
<li>Hyperic <a href="http://www.johnmwillis.com/hyperic/jcollectd-java-integration-for-collectd/">jcollectd</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/jgehlbach/status/1140229495">Native WMI support in OpenNMS</a></li>
<li>WMI, CIM, and the missed boat thereof</li>
<li><a href="http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/01/21/cloud-interop-the-wrap-up/">Cloud Interop Summit</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cote/1976037659/">Blue Mountain Coffee</a>, Australia, and <a href="http://www.bluemountainlabs.com/index.html">Blue Mountain Labs</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/01/21/ls09/">Lotusphere entering IBM into SaaS</a>. Is &#8220;good enough&#8221; good enough?</li>
<li><a href="http://www.johnmwillis.com/other/you-guys-are-killing-me-with-these-crazy-names/">Moonshine</a></li>
<li>Nice interfaces on-top of IT Management space, e.g., <a href="http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/server-farm/will-facebook-style-features-increase-value-and-accuracy-in-cmdbs/">the recent myCMDB article on that topic</a></li>
<li><a href="http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/productsOfTheYearWinner/0,296407,sid80_gci1345271_tax312965_ayr2008,00.html">SearchDataCenter.com Product of the Year Awards</a>: Splunk</li>
<li><a href="http://madstop.com/">Luke</a> has a beard! (See above.)</li>
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<p><b>Disclosure:</b> Splunk is a client, as are IBM, Microsoft, Hyperic, and Spiceworks. See <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/clients/">the RedMonk client list</a> for more clients mentioned.</p>
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		<title>#ls09 &#8211; The Long Run from Good Enough to Fantastic</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tweet Here&#8217;s the deal: whenever a vendor does something that I think is, all around, a good idea, I start to get suspicious of myself. It&#8217;s that demo glow thing. Worse, when they start finally doing something they should have been doing so long ago, but haven&#8217;t, that you&#8217;ve given up believing that they would [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>Here&#8217;s the deal: whenever a vendor does something that I think is, all around, a good idea, I start to get suspicious of myself. It&#8217;s that demo glow thing. Worse, when they start finally doing something they should have been doing so long ago, but haven&#8217;t,  that you&#8217;ve given up <i>believing</i> that they would actually do it&#8230;you&#8217;re sort of all screwed up in your head in this analyst business.</p>
<p>That, dear readers, is my reaction at 20,000 feet (literally and figuratively) to this year&#8217;s Lotusphere. IBM actually released an <i>application</i> that ends in a <code>.com</code>. They&#8217;ve got SaaS, friends, and they&#8217;re not ashamed of it.</p>
<h2>Side-note: Spring-loading Your Tea-leaves</h2>
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Side-note: remember &#8220;SaaS&#8221;? It was the in-thing before &#8220;cloud.&#8221; Track how far back it was to when SaaS was that the cool kids were doing &#8211; 3 years, maybe? &#8211; and you&#8217;ve got a good idea of how long it takes IBM to &#8220;catch-up&#8221; to what those raskly startups are doing. The contemporary lesson is to apply that time-stick to cloud computing. IBM still has 2-3 years before they&#8217;re release a serious product it&#8217;d seem.
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<h2>&#8220;And all I gotta do is act naturally&#8230;&#8221;</h2>
<p>While at Lotusphere, IBM&#8217;ers kept telling me about the crabbing from the blogs about <a href="http://www.lotuslive.com">LotusLive.com</a>. Indeed. It&#8217;s sort of like NetBeans to Eclipse. But that&#8217;s the kind of thing you expect from dancing elephants.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s where things do get screwy with LotusLive.com in the here-and-now: it&#8217;s still targeted at the same money-hogs that IBM has based it&#8217;s air-supply on these many years: The Companies Who Run The World, the Fortune-We-Don&#8217;t-Use-37Signals-Hundred. Yeah, those guys who&#8217;re <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/05/us_nov_2008_jobs_report/">laying off thousands of people now</a> and hoarding their cash like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road"><i>The Road</i></a> is about to lay us all out.</p>
<p>The talk of the Lotus-heads was of optimizing companies with 10,000+ employees. Big boys, dear readers. Would RedMonk, a virtual company of 5 people profit from using LotusLive.com? Could we even <i>afford</i> it?</p>
<h2>Sears is a Mid-market Company</h2>
<p>IBM is still not going after the S in &#8220;SMB&#8221; full-force like you&#8217;d think of from a SaaS offering. &#8220;M&#8221; gets in there under the moniker General Business, which is fine, but still gets the stripped down offerings at the drive-thru. Their interest is in processing RFPs and POs, not email addresses and credit cards.</p>
<p>For any talk you might hear about IBM selling to <a href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives2/sidebusiness_software_the_neglected_software_market.php">the Fortune One Million</a>, they&#8217;re not really interested at this point. My take is that Lotus is going through what the other IBM brands would call &#8220;modernization&#8221;: take the existing customer base and bring them up-to-date to &#8220;modern&#8221; technology. Over in Rational and z, they&#8217;ve got <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2006/11/27/redmonk-radio-episode-34-kbc-ibm-egl-and-system-z/">EGL</a> to move us from languages and platforms, of which, COBAL is the only one we can remember, only because of Y2K.</p>
<p>The perception for sometime has been that the Lotus world is stagnant, allowing Microsoft and even Trustafarians like Google to stumble into success, Lawrence of Arabian&#8217; there way to Damascus. A perfect, but stagnant <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/sogrady/">tecosystem</a> always falls pray to the good enough up-start with a finger on the plunger. Sure, it only has 40% of the functionality and it doesn&#8217;t know how to spell ISO, SOX, PCI, or talk to MIL: but it works, it&#8217;s cheap, and damned if that email quota and 10 meg Reply-All email attachements becomes a non-issue.</p>
<p>Lotus has been in desperate need of catching up to the times &#8211; beyond the dazzling array of internal and research-driven applications &#8211; and it seems like they&#8217;ve finally gotten their footing a little ways up a very large mountain.</p>
<h2>The $340,000 Question</h2>
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<p>Which brings the question back to one of cost. Any number you hear at a vendor show that has to do with cost is suspect, but let&#8217;s dance around with some.</p>
<p>At the 10,000 and above level, it was said at one keynote, Lotus believes they 30-40% cost savings on the average price of $10/user/month for email and calendaring. Let&#8217;s take the lowest there, the 30%. So, we&#8217;ve got Lotus messaging costing us $7/user/month, with a minimum of 10,000 users:</p>
<p><code>($10 - 30%) X 12 months X 10,000 users == $840,000/year</code></p>
<p>Then, let&#8217;s take Google Apps at a non-discounted price of $50/year/user. (Hold your comments about functionality: it&#8217;s coming.):</p>
<p><code>($50/user/year X 10,000) = $500,000</code></p>
<p>So, Lotus&#8217; challenge is to justify that extra $340,000.</p>
<p><i>Sure</i> the functionality that Lotus messaging and calendaring provides might be a <i>immense</i> compared to Google Apps. But how do you, and IT budget holder in, Staring Into The Economic <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2008/10/21/itmanagement024/">Abyss</a>, measure that immensitude?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got backup tapes with countless credit cards lost in the backs of cars. You&#8217;ve got regulations. You&#8217;ve got an endless amount of FUD out there, but if the risk management pounds of flesh on that FUD comes up to $340,000 or less: what&#8217;re you going to do?</p>
<h2>Never Trust a Number</h2>
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<p>Lookit: these are all funny numbers from some weird spreadsheet-cum-PDF with data points from 4AM benders. But, it gives you a <i>start</i> for understanding the trade-offs IT buyers have to make in the segment that Lotus once ruled. The real delta could be $5,000. It could be $500,000. All that matters is that Lotus is the Lexus, Microsoft is the Mazda, and Google is the Geo.</p>
<p>My high-school economics teacher gave me a nice piece of advice I&#8217;ve yet to apply in my life: a car is just a thing that gets you from Point A to Point B.</p>
<p>Email&#8230;calendaring&#8230;IM&#8230;&#8221;messaging&#8221;&#8230;<i>social software</i> has become that, in spades. To justify that $340,000, Lotus will need to bring innovation, easy to sell, profit-causing features full-force. Catching up with a SaaS offering is fantastic, no doubt, but there&#8217;s no room to drop the ball this time to someone with a better a outlook or a funny name.</p>
<p><b>Disclosure:</b> IBM is a client and covered T&amp;E to Lotusphere. Microsoft is a client as well, as are Microsoft and The Eclipse Foundation. Google once gave me <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cote/3127764025/">some nice gloves</a> (kisses!).</p>
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