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		<title>Mando Escamilla &#8211; Profiles in Courage &#8211; RedMonk Radio 056</title>
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<p>While at <a href="http://www.barcampaustin.org">barcampAustin</a> this year, my pal Zane Rockenbaugh (<a href="http://www.dogfoodsoftware.com/">Dog Food Software</a>) and <a href="http://www.peopleoverprocess.com">I</a> recorded a series of interviews with barcampAustin and SXSW attendees and friends. We dubbed it <em>Profiles in Courage</em>, and now they&#8217;re yours to enjoy.</p>
<p>Download <a href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/redmonk/redmonk056.mp3">the episode directly here</a>, subscribe to <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/RedmonkRadio">the RedMonk Radio podcast feed</a> to have it automatically downloaded to iTunes or other podcatcher, or just click play below to listen to it right here:</p>
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<h2>The Austin Tech Scene</h2>
<p>In the third episode of <i>Profiles in Courage</i>, <a href="http://www.barcampaustin.org/">barcampAustin</a> edition, Zane and I talk with <a href="http://www.mando.org/">Mando Escamilla</a> of <a href="http://www.symbiot.com/">Symbiot</a>.</p>
<p>Him being a local, I ask him what he thinks of the Austin tech-scene. He says it seems &#8220;obsequies,&#8221; more specifically, that it&#8217;s highly fragmented and not too well connected. It seems, he goes on, that tech people are not too social with each other. Why? Perhaps because of the city is spread out, maybe because there&#8217;s no big name employers, maybe it&#8217;s another reason.</p>
<h2>Rails Update</h2>
<p>I then ask Mando to give us an update on the rails community. To hear him tell it, the old school rails folks have made up with the merb folks and are successfully preventing community forking.</p>
<h2>Desktop Ajax?</h2>
<p>From here, we get into a discussion of RIA&#8217;s, specifically about desktop RIAs. While he&#8217;s been skeptical, Mando recently started using a new Twitter app, Spaz. This gets us into a discussion of using desktop RIAs to develop Ajax applications, as opposed to using Flex or another non-HTML language. Here, I dig deeper to get Mando to tell us if he&#8217;d move to desktop application development using this model. We brain storm about what&#8217;d this look-like and how you might transition to it.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s still reluctant to move from web applications, but he&#8217;s starting to creek open the door a bit on the possibility. Still, he likes that Spaz is all HTML, CSS, and JavaScript, but on the desktop. (See more commentary on this in <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/cote/2009/03/17/the-ria-triumvirate-at-sxsw-2009/">a recent post of mine about RIA&#8217;s at SXSW</a>).</p>
<p><b>Disclosure:</b> Adobe is a client, as are Microsoft and Appceletor.</p>
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