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	<title>Comments on: Can Code be Green? Does Beauty Matter?</title>
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	<description>One foot in the muck, the other in utopia</description>
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		<title>By: James Governor</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/12/can-code-be-green-does-beauty-matter/#comment-2088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Governor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wait i just realised. carl kessler is commenting here. bot not on my blog! bah humbug carl... ;-) but i think you make a great point]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait i just realised. carl kessler is commenting here. bot not on my blog! bah humbug carl&#8230; <img src="http://redmonk.com/cote/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /> but i think you make a great point</p>
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		<title>By: James Governor</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/12/can-code-be-green-does-beauty-matter/#comment-2087</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Governor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holy API efficiency batman this is turning into an awesome discussion. Sweet - i have some twitter back channel feedback too. thanks Cote. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy API efficiency batman this is turning into an awesome discussion. Sweet &#8211; i have some twitter back channel feedback too. thanks Cote. </p>
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		<title>By: Danno</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/12/can-code-be-green-does-beauty-matter/#comment-2086</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who programs in a dialect of APL: It really just takes a month or two to start appreciating it.

It helps if you work on large, mostly regular data sets.

It&#039;s also as fast as hell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who programs in a dialect of APL: It really just takes a month or two to start appreciating it.</p>
<p>It helps if you work on large, mostly regular data sets.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also as fast as hell.</p>
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		<title>By: cote</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/12/can-code-be-green-does-beauty-matter/#comment-2085</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cote]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl: nice slipping in of APL ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl: nice slipping in of APL <img src="http://redmonk.com/cote/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Carl Kessler</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/12/can-code-be-green-does-beauty-matter/#comment-2084</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl Kessler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful code should be understandable by others.  This allows them to figure out if it works and to fix it when they find out it doesn&#039;t.   It should be elegant - which is to say, attractive to the eye and appropriate to purpose.  You know it when you see it.

I take exception to the notion that beautiful Ada code will look like crap to a Java programmer, etc.  Even if the Java programmer doesn&#039;t write Ada, she should be able to get a sense of what&#039;s going on in the code.

Yes, perhaps no one but an APL programmer can see beauty in &lt;strong&gt;that&lt;/strong&gt; language, but for most folks, clean and elegant code garners respect, even if in a foreign tongue. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful code should be understandable by others.  This allows them to figure out if it works and to fix it when they find out it doesn&#039;t.   It should be elegant &#8211; which is to say, attractive to the eye and appropriate to purpose.  You know it when you see it.</p>
<p>I take exception to the notion that beautiful Ada code will look like crap to a Java programmer, etc.  Even if the Java programmer doesn&#039;t write Ada, she should be able to get a sense of what&#039;s going on in the code.</p>
<p>Yes, perhaps no one but an APL programmer can see beauty in <strong>that</strong> language, but for most folks, clean and elegant code garners respect, even if in a foreign tongue. </p>
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		<title>By: Tarus</title>
		<link>http://redmonk.com/cote/2008/02/12/can-code-be-green-does-beauty-matter/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tarus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are many different flavors of efficiency to be considered, but working in an open source development shop I argue that beautiful code (well organized, streamlined, reusable and commented) is in the long term green simply because more people can reuse it. Also the effort can be spent on improving the existing code versus having to start from scratch.

I&#039;m not sure that beautiful code is more efficient at the microeconomic level of &quot;watts per execution&quot; versus, say, machine level code, but the total cost when all the externalities are accounted for should be less over time. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many different flavors of efficiency to be considered, but working in an open source development shop I argue that beautiful code (well organized, streamlined, reusable and commented) is in the long term green simply because more people can reuse it. Also the effort can be spent on improving the existing code versus having to start from scratch.</p>
<p>I&#039;m not sure that beautiful code is more efficient at the microeconomic level of &quot;watts per execution&quot; versus, say, machine level code, but the total cost when all the externalities are accounted for should be less over time. </p>
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