Comments on: Wish list of for Open Source + Apple

By: People Over Process

People Over Process — Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:49:34 +0000

RedMonk Radio Episode 25 – Apple’s Open Source, Integrating Innovation Elsewhere, FileNet, IBM and Verticals, Linux Drivers

In this episode Steve O’Grady and Coté talk about Apple’s recent open source efforts, FileNet and IBM, IBM getting closer to the end user, and the frustration with Linux drivers. You can download the episode by clicking here. Or subscribe…

By: Cote'

Cote' — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:12:59 +0000

Yup, storing everything on the server (via IMAP or POP) is probably good enough as well.
From the feedback I've gotten on the Mail.app topic, I can see that it's a hot topic Also, as an ironic aside to the whole thing, I switched back to using Mail.app…but that's for another post

By: Brandon

Brandon — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:35:29 +0000

Why not host your mail on an IMAP server? IMAP seems like a "safe" standard which many mail clients support?

By: Cote'

Cote' — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:57:24 +0000

I'm glad to hear that someone agrees on the FireFox/Safari thing. It felt like I was going out on a limb with that one
I used Safari occasionally myself. I have the fonts jacked up quite high in FireFox, and it screws sites up that don't design their pages accordingly. So, I'll open up Safari for those sites.
As per Mail.app: sure, there are converters. I used just the one you linked to to switch over. Rationally, that should be fine, but it still annoys me. I tend to take a purist/high paranoia stance when it comes to these things (at least, I'd like to think I do), so I will admit that I'm being over-the-top on that topic.
Nonetheless, my personal preference (and those of the other Apple-to-Ubuntu defectors) is to have avoid the conversion all together and just use the standards. A large part of it is from The Pragmatic Programmer notion of using plain text (or standard formats) as to manage the long-term risk of not being able to access proprietary formats in the distant future.
All that said — and aren't I a horrible flip-flopper? — I'm seriously consider switching back to Mail.app. ThunderBird just isn't cutting it for search, multiple boxes, AddressBook integration, and over-all use.

By: Jon

Jon — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 06:01:54 +0000

I have to agree about the Safari/Firefox. I still use Safari though, because Firefox disables the built-in Ctrl-Meta-D hover over spell, and has it's own weird dictionary thang in the new version. Perhaps if Apple got behind it…
I have to disagree with your "closed nature of Mail.app" There are plenty of free programs to convert Mail's "closed" formats to more standard formats. What's the problem? As long as one can perform this conversion, there is no problem. Here's one, and gasp, it's from Apple: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/unix_open_s…